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Robert GOATHAM

Robert GOATHAM
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Male Abt 1736 - 1813  (~ 77 years)    Has 25 ancestors but no descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Robert GOATHAM 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born Abt 1736 
    Baptised 28 Sep 1736  St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 18 Mar 2017)
      (clearly 28th, not 23rd as I had from KFHS transcribed data)
    Gender Male 
    Occupation From 1750 to 1780 
    Mariner 
    • Robert was described as a mariner,  when he married Mary Shakleton in 1775.
      The petition to Trinity House that he made in 1810 provides more details:
      "That your petitioner Robt. Goatham was bred to the Sea, and served there as Commander in the Merchant Service in the Cadiz and Tennerif Trade, ..."(Approximate dates)
    Residence 1775  Bermondsey, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Robert was described as of the parish of St. Mary Magdalene's in Bermondsey when he married Mary Shakleton in 1775.
    POW 2 Aug 1778  Brest, France See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Landed after being taken prisoner 
    POW 1779  Vitré, Bretagne, France See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    POW From Dec 1779 to Apr 1780  Angers, France See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation From 1780 to 1810  River Thames, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Trinity Pilot 
    • Robert was described as a pilot of Rotherhithe in his will (written 1804).
      The petition to Trinity House that he made in 1810 provides more details:
      "... and for the last Thirty years as a Licensed Trinity Pilot is now distressed and infirm through old(?) Age, his Wife aged 77 years"
      Since he lived at Rotherhithe, I think Robert must have been piloting ships into London.

      "For the last thirty years ..." means since about 1780, yet according to an LMA leaflet (p.6, 2A) pilots had to be under 35 when first licensed.

      In addition a pilot had to have British nationality, have several years' experience as a watch-keeping officer of a ship and hold a foreign-going Master Mariner's certificate (or Naval certificate of service). 

      To be investigated further
    Residence 1804  Rotherhithe, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • At the time he wrote his will
    Will 29 Oct 1804 
    Written 
    Residence Abt 1809  Queen Street, Rotherhithe, Surrey, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • At the time a list of pilots was compiled, included in 'Instructions to Masters of Ships', published in 1809.
    Trinity House Petition 18 Jul 1810 
    • Made a petition for assitance for himself and his wife when he was 74, his wife 77, being distressed and infirm through age.
      to be transcribed

      In applying to Trinity House for help Robert was following in the steps of his older brother, Edward, and was to be followed by his nephew, Robert, son of Edward.
    Residence 1813  Mile End Old Town, Stepney, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    At the time he died 
    Died Jan 1813 
    Buried 20 Jan 1813  St. Dunstan and All Saints’ Church, Stepney, Middlesex, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Robert signed his will in 1804; it was proved 1813. Given the date that the will was proved, and given that he describes himself as of"perfect health" when he wrote his will, it is most likely that he died late 1812.
    Probate 9 Feb 1813  Prerogative Court of Canterbury, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation Tenerife, Spain See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Mariner 
    • In his petition to Trinity House Robert described himself as working in the Tenerife trade.
    Occupation Cádiz, Spain See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Mariner 
    • In his petition to Trinity House Robert described himself as working in the Cadiz trade.
    Siblings 2 brothers and 3 sisters 
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    GOATHAM,   d. Yes, date unknown  (4 x Great Grandfather) 
    Mary CURLING,   d. Yes, date unknown  (Great Grandmother) 
    Notes 
    • (Research):I believe it was this Robert, a pilot of Rotherhithe, who wrote a will in 1804 which was proved in 1813. Rotherhithe is only about 2 miles from Stepney and Bermondsey where Robert's 2 marriages took place, and also from Depford where the will-writer Robert had a niece.
      In addition, I believe that the Judith Goatham who married in Rotherhithe was the sister of this Robert.
      And, now having seen an entry for Robert in a Trinity House petitions index, I know that he was shown as aged 74 in 1810 which ties in with the date of baptism.

      Who were the people besides Robert's wife that he left bequests to in his will?

      Lydia and Maria Thompson? - no relationship shown suggests that these may have been friends, or possibly relations of one of Robert's wives.
      Good candidates to be the Lydia and Maria are the daughters of John and Lydia Thompson baptised at St. Mary, Rotherhithe on 21 Sept 1797 - Lydia was born Jun 21 1795; Maria was a more common age for baptism at 26 days old.

      Aside: of the 50 baptisms on the same and the preceeding page, from Aug 25 to Oct 13 1797, only 2 others were born before 1797, the other 47 ranging in age from 2 days to 131 days old of which 25 (i.e. half) were from 20 to 29 days.

      Niece Elizabeth Soper
      Did one of Robert's sisters marry a Soper, or was this the married name of Robert's neice? Perhaps she was the daughter of his sister Judith, Deptford being near Rotherhithe.
      A William and Elizabeth Soper had a child Matia baptised in Jul 1794, a son John baptised in Mar 1795 and another son Benjamin in Aug 1796, all in Rotherhithe;  and again probably the same couple had a daughter Jane, baptised Jul 1800,  a son George Francis baptised in 1802, and a daughter Harriet Hamlyn Oct 1804, all in Rotherhithe.
      This would seem to be the William Soper, mariner, and Elizabeth Hamlyn who married at St Katharine The Virgin and Martyr Church, near the Tower of London, on 24 Sep 1785.

      Probably a different couple had several children baptised in St. Nicholas' Church, Deptford around the same time: William in Nov 1785, John 13 May 1787, Sarah 10 Apr 1789, Thomas Howell 1 Mar 1791, Geo 26 Oct 1792, Robert in Mar 1796, Elisa in Oct 1797.
      One of the above couples may have been the parents of John Matthew, baptised 2 Jan 1780 at St. Mary's Rotherhithe.
    Person ID I3205  All | England: Kent Group (in Go(a)tham One-Name Study), England: Kent Group - subjects of Go(a)tham One-Name Study, All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study , All subjects of the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study
    Last Modified 24 Mar 2023 

    Father John GOATHAM,   bap. 16 Apr 1693, St. Laurence’s Church, St. Lawrence in Thanet, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1770  (Age ~ 76 years) 
    Mother Anne DIGGES,   bap. 14 Apr 1700, St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Oct 1770, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 70 years) 
    Married 25 Feb 1723/24  St. Benet’s Church, Paul's Wharf, City of London, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Register entry "John Goatham of Ramsgate Kent B and Ann Digges of Margate Kent S by LC" - no indication of why the marriage was taking place in London.

      With John being of Ramsgate, and Ann of Margate, it is not clear why they married in London. According to the website of St. Benet's "Until 1867 St Benet was the parish church of Doctors Commons, a legal institution which, among its other activities, could provide facilities for hasty marriages. There is a record, for instance, of some 1300 weddings taking place in one year alone in the Eighteenth Century." But it is not clear why they would have wanted a hasty marriage. Was Anne underage or one (or both) marrying against their father's will? Or was it just a romantic thing to do, to travel (presumably around the coast and up the Thames) to London?
    Marriage License 25 Feb 1723/24  Faculty Office, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Licence is in the Faculty Office Marriage Licence Allegations 1701-1850 collection of SOG

      "25th. Febry. 1723o ??
      On Which day Appeared P[er]sonally John
      Goatham of Ramsgate in the County of Kent
      aged Twenty nine years and a Batchelor and
      alledged that he intendeth to marry with Anne
      Digges of Margate in the sd County aged above 
      Twenty three years and a Spinster at her own
      dispussal

      Not knowing or beleiving any lawfull Lett or Impedimt by
      reason of any p[re](?)contract Consanguinity Affinity or any
      other lawfull means wtsoever to hinder the sd intended.
      Marriage of the truth of the p[r]emisses he made Oath &
      prayed Licence to Soleming & the sd Marriage in
      the Parish Church of St. Bennet near Pauls Wharf London
      John Goatham"
    Family ID F1279  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Elisabeth COULTHARD,   b. Abt 1740,   bur. 16 May 1771, St. Mary Magdalene’s Church, Bermondsey, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 31 years) 
    Marriage License 14 Nov 1765  Vicar General’s Office, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • In the Vicar-General Marriage Licence Allegations 1694-1850, (held by the SOG) -
      "Vicar General Office 14th. November 1765

      Which day appeared personally
      Robert Goatham of the Parish of St. John in the
      Isle of Thanet in the County of Kent and made Oathe
      that he is a Batchelor of the Age of twenty six years
      and upwards and intends to Intermarry with Elizabeth
      Coulthard who had had the last four weeks of her
      Usual Abode in the Parish of St. Dunstan Stepney
      in the County of Middlesex Spinster Aged twenty
      four years and upwards he this Deponent
      [3 lines of swirls]
      not knowing or believing any Impediment by
      ...  
      "
    Married 15 Nov 1765  St. Dunstan and All Saints’ Church, Stepney, Middlesex, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Married by licence. PR entry shows Robert as being of St. John's on the Isle of Thanet. (Elisabeth otp)
    Last Modified 24 Mar 2023 
    Family ID F3757  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Mary,   b. Abt 1732,   bur. 23 Dec 1814, St. Dunstan and All Saints’ Church, Stepney, Middlesex, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 82 years) 
    Other Partners: SHAKLETON 
    Marriage License 3 Feb 1775 
    Bond and allegation 
    Married 5 Feb 1775  St. Mary Magdalene’s Church, Bermondsey, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Married by licence, both otp, widr and widow
      Witnesses Peter Hambly and Eleanor Servant
    Last Modified 13 Jun 2017 
    Family ID F3758  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBaptised - 28 Sep 1736 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 15 Nov 1765 - St. Dunstan and All Saints’ Church, Stepney, Middlesex, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1775 - Bermondsey, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 5 Feb 1775 - St. Mary Magdalene’s Church, Bermondsey, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsPOW - Landed after being taken prisoner - 2 Aug 1778 - Brest, France See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsPOW - 1779 - Vitré, Bretagne, France See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsPOW - From Dec 1779 to Apr 1780 - Angers, France See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsResidence - At the time he died - 1813 - Mile End Old Town, Stepney, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 20 Jan 1813 - St. Dunstan and All Saints’ Church, Stepney, Middlesex, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsProbate - 9 Feb 1813 - Prerogative Court of Canterbury, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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  • Wills (transcripts)
    The will of Robert Goatham (c1736 - 1813)    		The will of Robert Goatham (c1736 - 1813)
    (a 2nd cousin 7x removed of mine)