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John BAILEY
1903 - 1980 (77 years) Has 199 ancestors and 5 descendants in this family tree.Set As Default Person
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Name John BAILEY Relationship with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Born 24 May 1903 Marsden, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England - GRO ref: Bailey, John q3 1903 S Shields RD 10a 818; GRO online index shows mother's maiden name as Robinson
Actual date from 1939 register
Birth certificate for John Bailey (b 1903) Gender Male Education 1911 Seaham, Co. Durham, England School - At the time of the 1911 census
Occupation From 1917 to 1968 Seaham, Co. Durham, England Gardener - Gardener for the council, head gardener by 1960. Worked in public parks, on roundabout floral bedding etc.
(Approximate date range)
War Service 1939 Seaham, Co. Durham, England Rescue and Demolition A. R. P. Warden - An initial (or 2) after Seaham that I can't quite read, may indicate a part of Seaham or Seaham Harbour.
(from 1939 register, Ref: RG101/2798C/010/37 Letter Code: FFYM)
Residence 1939 19, Grants Crescent, Seaham Harbour, Seaham, Co. Durham, England - I knew that he had lived at 19 Grants Crescent at some time prior to 1960 and the 1939 register shows it was his address then.
At that time he was with his wife and daughter; one other entry closed as at 21 Dec 2016, probably his son, but entry not been opened because (I think) he died abroad.
Residence From 1960 to 1980 Fairlawns, Dene Road, Dalton-le-Dale, Seaham, Co. Durham, England - Lived at Fairlawns, Dene Rd, Dalton-le-Dale, Seaham by 1960 when he married Marjorie and lived there with her.
Died 26 May 1980 Sunderland Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England - GRO ref: q2 1980 Sunderland RD 2 1828; dth index shows dob as 24 My 1903
Actual date from gravestone in Seaham
Siblings 5 brothers and 6 sisters Patriarch & Matriarch William BAILEY, b. Abt 1724, (probably in or near), Kingsteignton, Devon, England , d. Jul 1817, Teigngrace, Devon, England (Age ~ 93 years) (3 x Great Grandfather)
Barbara HUTCHINSON, b. Abt 1782, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England , d. 12 Feb 1858, Smith’s Court, Prudhoe Street, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England (Age ~ 76 years) (2 x Great Grandmother)Person ID I304 All | henryAdorbailey Last Modified 10 Mar 2018
Father Henry BAILEY, b. 16 Apr 1866, Zoar, St. Budeaux, Devon, England , d. 3 Sep 1946, The Royal Infirmary, Sunderland, Co. Durham, England (Age 80 years) Mother Dorothy ROBINSON, b. 14 Mar 1870, 68, Washington New Row, Usworth, Co. Durham, England , d. 23 Jan 1963, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England (Age 92 years) Married 5 May 1888 Whitburn Parish Church, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England - GRO ref: BAILEY, Henry to ROBINSON, Dorothy q2 1888 South Shields RD 10a 957
Certificate for the marriage of Henry Bailey to Dorothy Robinson Children How many did Henry and Dorothy have? - According to a newspaper cutting for Henry and Dorothy's Golden Wedding, they had had 7 sons and 6 daughters (4 and 3 then living) - the figures for those still living is right, but I only know of 6 sons.
Another newspaper cutting says they had 14 children, another only 12!
By the time of the 1911 census they had had 12 children born alive, of whom 3 had died. Edith was still living then, who would subsequently die in infancy, and William had not been born. I think this is more likely to be accurate than the much later newspaper reports, which would suggest they did have at least 13 children, and if there was a 14th he or she was born after 1911.
So who was the 13th? Granddad thought that a child named after each of them had died; whilst I can find the earlier Henry I have not found any evidence of a Dorothy. Possibly a child was born before they married and their birth registered as a Robinson. No likely Dorothy found - if there was a daughter Dorothy she would have made the total sons / daughters in the Golden Wedding report the wrong way around - far from impossible, in a local newspaper!
It seems strange to me that the number of children should be quoted variably. Two possible explanations, apart from errors by newspaper jounalists or typos, could be:
1. that they had had children still born or had miscarriages OR
2. that Dorothy had had one or 2 children before she married Henry. Especially given the good age she lived to, I find it hard to imagine she could have kept this a secret - especially when then counting them at times.
But a late miscarriage or especially a still-birth I think could quite likely be counted as having a child at times, and yet not at others. (The 1911 census, though, did clearly say they had had 12 children born alive, which suggests I may be missing one who was not a still-birth / late miscarriage).
With names as common as Bailey and Robinson it is not easy to be certain, without the expense of purchasing a lot of certificates.
Wedding Anniversary 5 May 1938 Garden Street, Houghall, Co. Durham, England Golden Photos Bailey brothers and sisters
Taken at the wedding of Dorothy Simpson.
Six of the seven children of Henry Bailey (b 1866) and Dorothy nee Robinson (b 1870) still living in 1966, viz.
(back row) Will, Henry, John
(front row) Emily, Doris, Rob
(Flo is the one still living but not present)
Documents Newspaper notice of the death of Samuel Bailey Family ID F98 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family 1 Mary Ellen EILBECK, b. 12 Apr 1903, Easington Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England , d. 4 Feb 1945, Seaham Harbour, Seaham, Co. Durham, England (Age 41 years) Married 25 Dec 1924 Primitive Methodist Chapel, Tempest Road, Seaham Harbour, Seaham, Co. Durham, England - GRO ref: Bailey, John to Eilbeck, Mary E q4 1924 Easington RD 10a 923
Details from transcribed data on Durham Records Online, viewed 8 Apr 2011
Children 2 children Last Modified 5 Oct 2017 Family ID F216 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family 2 Marjorie ("Madge") BARNARD, b. 20 Nov 1919, Ecclesall, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England , d. Yes, date unknown Married 20 Aug 1960 Wesley Chapel, Fulwood Road, Ecclesall, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England - Met Marjorie through Rechabites
BMD certificates Certificate for the marriage of John Bailey to Marjorie Barnard Last Modified 10 Mar 2014 Family ID F222 Family Group Page | Family Chart
- GRO ref: Bailey, John q3 1903 S Shields RD 10a 818; GRO online index shows mother's maiden name as Robinson
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Event Map Click to hide Born - 24 May 1903 - Marsden, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England Education - School - 1911 - Seaham, Co. Durham, England Occupation - Gardener - From 1917 to 1968 - Seaham, Co. Durham, England Married - 25 Dec 1924 - Primitive Methodist Chapel, Tempest Road, Seaham Harbour, Seaham, Co. Durham, England War Service - Rescue and Demolition A. R. P. Warden - 1939 - Seaham, Co. Durham, England Residence - 1939 - 19, Grants Crescent, Seaham Harbour, Seaham, Co. Durham, England Residence - From 1960 to 1980 - Fairlawns, Dene Road, Dalton-le-Dale, Seaham, Co. Durham, England Married - 20 Aug 1960 - Wesley Chapel, Fulwood Road, Ecclesall, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England = Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install) Pin Legend
Photos
Documents A present to granddad from his brother John
Uncle John gave granddad a Bible - presumably to take to sea with him.John Bailey's death notice in the paper