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Robert James ("Rob") BAILEY
1893 - 1975 (81 years) Has 190 ancestors and 19 descendants in this family tree.Set As Default Person
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Name Robert James ("Rob") BAILEY Nickname Rob Relationship with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Born 21 Aug 1893 Station Town, Co. Durham, England - dob from death registration index and from 1939 register
GRO ref: Bailey, Robert James q3 1893 Easington RD 10a 476; GRO online index shows mother's maiden name as Robinson
Baptised 13 Sep 1893 Holy Trinity Church, Wingate Grange, Co. Durham, England - DRO
Gender Male Occupation 1911 Marsden, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England Coal miner - endless rope - Living in Marsden - I guess working in the mine there
Residence 1921 Residence 1939 36, Arthur Street, Boldon, Co. Durham, England - With one of his sons
(from the 1939 register, ref: RG101/2755G/023/15 Letter Code: FFGA)
Died Dec Q 1975 South Shields Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England - GRO ref: q4 1975 South Shields RD 2 1334
Siblings 5 brothers and 6 sisters Patriarch & Matriarch William BAILEY, b. Abt 1724, (probably in or near), Kingsteignton, Devon, England , d. Jul 1817, Teigngrace, Devon, England (Age ~ 93 years) (3 x Great Grandfather)
Barbara HUTCHINSON, b. Abt 1782, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England , d. 12 Feb 1858, Smith’s Court, Prudhoe Street, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England (Age ~ 76 years) (2 x Great Grandmother)Notes - lived at 27 Windsor Drive, Cleadon (pos lived at 7 Arthur Terrace, Whitburn Colliery, else this was his son Robert) Describd as "of Whitburn Colliery" on CWGC entry for son Robert
Person ID I302 All | henryAdorbailey Last Modified 3 Feb 2023
Father Henry BAILEY, b. 16 Apr 1866, Zoar, St. Budeaux, Devon, England , d. 3 Sep 1946, The Royal Infirmary, Sunderland, Co. Durham, England (Age 80 years) Mother Dorothy ROBINSON, b. 14 Mar 1870, 68, Washington New Row, Usworth, Co. Durham, England , d. 23 Jan 1963, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England (Age 92 years) Married 5 May 1888 Whitburn Parish Church, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England - GRO ref: BAILEY, Henry to ROBINSON, Dorothy q2 1888 South Shields RD 10a 957
Certificate for the marriage of Henry Bailey to Dorothy Robinson Children How many did Henry and Dorothy have? - According to a newspaper cutting for Henry and Dorothy's Golden Wedding, they had had 7 sons and 6 daughters (4 and 3 then living) - the figures for those still living is right, but I only know of 6 sons.
Another newspaper cutting says they had 14 children, another only 12!
By the time of the 1911 census they had had 12 children born alive, of whom 3 had died. Edith was still living then, who would subsequently die in infancy, and William had not been born. I think this is more likely to be accurate than the much later newspaper reports, which would suggest they did have at least 13 children, and if there was a 14th he or she was born after 1911.
So who was the 13th? Granddad thought that a child named after each of them had died; whilst I can find the earlier Henry I have not found any evidence of a Dorothy. Possibly a child was born before they married and their birth registered as a Robinson. No likely Dorothy found - if there was a daughter Dorothy she would have made the total sons / daughters in the Golden Wedding report the wrong way around - far from impossible, in a local newspaper!
It seems strange to me that the number of children should be quoted variably. Two possible explanations, apart from errors by newspaper jounalists or typos, could be:
1. that they had had children still born or had miscarriages OR
2. that Dorothy had had one or 2 children before she married Henry. Especially given the good age she lived to, I find it hard to imagine she could have kept this a secret - especially when then counting them at times.
But a late miscarriage or especially a still-birth I think could quite likely be counted as having a child at times, and yet not at others. (The 1911 census, though, did clearly say they had had 12 children born alive, which suggests I may be missing one who was not a still-birth / late miscarriage).
With names as common as Bailey and Robinson it is not easy to be certain, without the expense of purchasing a lot of certificates.
Wedding Anniversary 5 May 1938 Garden Street, Houghall, Co. Durham, England Golden Photos Bailey brothers and sisters
Taken at the wedding of Dorothy Simpson.
Six of the seven children of Henry Bailey (b 1866) and Dorothy nee Robinson (b 1870) still living in 1966, viz.
(back row) Will, Henry, John
(front row) Emily, Doris, Rob
(Flo is the one still living but not present)
Documents Newspaper notice of the death of Samuel Bailey Family ID F98 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family 1 Ada SUMMERS, b. Sep Q 1894, Leamside, Co. Durham, England , d. Dec Q 1938, Durham N.E. Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England (Age ~ 44 years) Married Sep Q 1916 South Shields Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England - GRO ref: Bailey, Robert J to Summers, Ada q2 1916 South Shields RD 10a 1413
Children 4 children Last Modified 15 Nov 2022 Family ID F214 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family 2 Dorothy ("Dolly") RUTHERFORD, b. 17 Aug 1899, Percy Main, Northumberland, England , d. Jun Q 1981, South Shields Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England (Age 81 years) Married Jun Q 1940 Tynemouth Reg Dist, Northumberland, England - GRO ref: Bailey, Robert J to Rutherford, Dorothy q3 1940 Tynemouth RD 10a 532
Photos On holiday in Devon
My grandparents and granddad's brother Rob and his family. One of the two unidentified ladies I think must be Uncle Rob's wife, the other may be the wife of the photographer - another brother of granddad's?
I think that Widecombe was probably visited because it is a popular tourist attraction, not because 2 centuries earlier you could have met ancestors of the 3 men in the photo here. About 180 years earlier the great great grandfather of granddad and Uncle Rob was baptised in the village,…Last Modified 15 Nov 2022 Family ID F1121 Family Group Page | Family Chart
- dob from death registration index and from 1939 register
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Event Map Click to hide Born - 21 Aug 1893 - Station Town, Co. Durham, England Baptised - 13 Sep 1893 - Holy Trinity Church, Wingate Grange, Co. Durham, England Occupation - Coal miner - endless rope - 1911 - Marsden, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England Married - Sep Q 1916 - South Shields Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England Child - Ada BAILEY - 1 Apr 1917 - South Shields Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England Child - Andrew BAILEY - Dec Q 1935 - South Shields Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England Married - Jun Q 1940 - Tynemouth Reg Dist, Northumberland, England Died - Dec Q 1975 - South Shields Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England = Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install) Pin Legend
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Histories Journey to the pits
Ancestors travelled from Norfolk and even further from Devon to become coal miners in Co. Durham - but my grandfather reversed his grandfather's actions by running away from mining to go to sea.