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Richard ROSE
Est 1640 - Abt 1714 (~ 74 years) Has 94 ancestors and 40 descendants in this family tree.Set As Default Person
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Name Richard ROSE Relationship with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Born Est 1640 - From date of matriculation. Shown as 4th son of his father (in Alumni Oxoniensis)
Gender Male Will 14 Sep 1708 Written Died Abt 1714 Probate 23 Jun 1714 Prerogative Court of Canterbury, London, England Siblings 1 brother and 4 sisters Half-siblings 3 half brothers (family of Richard ROSE and Elizabeth HENLEY) Patriarch & Matriarch ROZE, d. Yes, date unknown (2 x Great Grandfather)
Ursula BRYDGES, b. Est 1510, d. Between 26 Oct 1575 and 4 Feb 1576 (Age ~ 65 years) (3 x Great Grandmother)Person ID I21205 All Last Modified 24 Jan 2022
Father Richard ROSE, b. Abt 1600, d. Abt 1658, Wootton Fitzpaine, Dorset, England (Age ~ 58 years)
Other Partners: Elizabeth HENLEY m. Between 1614 and 1625Mother Mary BRODREPP, b. Est 1611, d. Bef 1655, Wootton Fitzpaine, Dorset, England (Age ~ 43 years) Married Aft 1636 - I am confident that Richard reamarried after his first wife had died, and that he married a Brodrepp, the sister of Christopher and John. Hutchins shows the marriage and names Richard's wife as Mary (though see below).
It is interesting to note from Richard Rose's will that when he died Morganhayes was his; I suspect that this may have passed to the Rose family as part of the marriage settlement when Richard Rose and Mary Brodrepp married.
I am confident that my direct ancestor,Richard's daughter Elizabeth, was not the daughter of his first wife, Elizabeth Henley.
However, it is possible he remarried more than once after the death of his first wife, in which case I could have fused more than one person into this 'second' wife of Richard Rose.
There is evidence that some at least of the offspring of Richard were with his Brodrepp wife: Anne expressed a wish in her will to be buried in Mapperton Church in 'my cozen Brodrips Isle' while Thomas' son Churchill is described as a kinsman in a Brodrepp will. That Richard's son Richard was probably a child of his Brodrepp wife is suggested by Richard junior's son Thomas in his will appointing Richard Brodrepp as a trustee for his grandchildren during their minority. Mary Rose is described as a cousin in the will of Christopher Brodrepp's daughter Mary.
That just leaves Dorothy and, unfortunately, my ancestor Elizabeth, the latter being, of course, the one whose mother I am keenest to be reasonably certain about.
The name of the Brodrepp that Richard Rose married is shown in Hutchins as Mary, although it seems clear that he has attached her in the wrong place, showing her as daughter rather than sister of Christopher Brodrepp. Although Christopher did have sons Christopher and John (as named as brothers in Richard Rose's will), if Richard Rose had married Christopher senior's daughter Mary the marriage would have been too late for them to have the children as on the tree here. In addition, Christopher senior's daughter Mary died single, leaving a will with various relations named and relationships described from which it seems clear she was that Christopher's daughter.
Hutchins also appears to have attached John married to Elizabeth Freke as a son of Christopher senior instead of a brother. Again, the dates don't work if it was John the son of Christopher senior who married Elizabeth.
These common small errors in Hutchins makes it clear he cannot be relied on for details, and hence with Richard's Brodrepp's wife's Christian name only known from Hutchings it must be regarded with caution - but I will use it unless or until I learn otherwise.
(Mary Brodrepp's grandmother was Anne Bampfield; Richard's first wife's mother names two Bampfields as friends and makes them executors of her will. These were Francis and Thomas, I think they must have been grandsons of Amias, brother of Anne and so second cousins of Mary. Amias was mentioned in more than one Morgan family document, suggesting that Anne, who was from a large family and probably not in close contact with all of her siblings, was close to Amias. Did this contact between the two families continue - was it through the Henley family's contact with the Bampfields that Richard came to know their cousin, Mary Brodrepp?)
Family ID F8397 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family Mary, bur. 21 Jan 1686/87, The Parish Church, Wootton Fitzpaine, Dorset, England Children 4 children Last Modified 11 Sep 2017 Family ID F8379 Family Group Page | Family Chart
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