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Elizabeth Hannah BATES
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Name Elizabeth Hannah BATES Relationship 
with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Born 5 Feb 1894 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
- From the 1901 census where shown as aged 7
GRO ref: Bates, Elizabeth Hannah q1 1894 Liverpool RD 8b 49; GRO online index shows mother's maiden name as McCormack
Actual date from 1939 register; shown as 5 Feb 1895 in death registration index
Baptised 18 Feb 1894 St. Mary’s Church, Kirkdale, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
- From FamilySearch - details to be checked
Gender Female Died Sep Q 1975 Liverpool Reg Dist, Lancashire, England
- GRO ref: SAVAGE, Elizabeth Hannah q3 1975 dob 5FE1895 Liverpool RD 36 269
Siblings6 brothers and 6 sisters Patriarch & Matriarch
Francis BATES, b. Jun Q 1865, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
, d. Dec Q 1920, West Derby Reg Dist, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
(Age ~ 55 years) (Father) 
Esther MCCORMICK, b. 28 Oct 1868, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
, d. Jun Q 1939, Liverpool North Reg Dist, Lancashire, England
(Age 70 years) (Mother) 
Person ID I306010 All | All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study Last Modified 21 May 2019
Father Francis BATES, b. Jun Q 1865, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
, d. Dec Q 1920, West Derby Reg Dist, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
(Age ~ 55 years) Mother Esther MCCORMICK, b. 28 Oct 1868, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
, d. Jun Q 1939, Liverpool North Reg Dist, Lancashire, England
(Age 70 years) Married 17 Mar 1885 St. Peter’s Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
- GRO ref: Bates, Francis to McCormick, Esther q1 1885 Liverpool RD 8b 187
Details from PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 21 May 2019)
Shows Francis Bates, Bachelor, Labourer, abode Vauxhall Rd., aged 21, father Paul Bates, Porter and Esther McCormick, aged 19, Spinster, no occupation given, abode Vauxhall Rd., father John McCormick, Boiler maker
Confusingly the 1911 census shows that Francis and Esther had had 10 children two of whom had died. Since there are 8 of their children with them at the time of that census it seemed it must be the other two, with them in earlier censuses, who had died, i.e. Joseph and Francis. However, there is a James who was born in a gap between the children shown in the censuses, for whom a death can be found; the mother's maiden name in his birth registration suggests he was a son of Francis and Esther (there is no evidence of other Bates - McCormick (or similar sounding) couples having children at this time).
There is also no death registration of a Joseph of the right age in Lancashire between 1901 and 1911, nor any sign of another Joseph son of Francis of the right age born or baptised in Liverpool, or in the censuses.
It seems clear, therefore, that Francis and Esther had had 11 children, of whom 2 had died, or that they were passing off one child as theirs - but at registration not just in the census; describing illegitimate grandchildren as children in the census is not uncommon, but registering them as such would be.
Family ID F300359 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family Thomas George SAVAGE, b. 2 Sep 1893, d. Yes, date unknown Married Jun Q 1917 West Derby Reg Dist, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
- GRO ref: Bates, Elizabeth H to Savage, Thomas G q2 1917 W.Derby RD 8b 529
Last Modified 18 May 2020 Family ID F302024 Family Group Page | Family Chart
- From the 1901 census where shown as aged 7
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Born - 5 Feb 1894 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England 


Married - Jun Q 1917 - West Derby Reg Dist, Liverpool, Lancashire, England 


Died - Sep Q 1975 - Liverpool Reg Dist, Lancashire, England 

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