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Francis BATES
1865 - 1920 (~ 55 years)
Has no ancestors but 22 descendants in this family tree.
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Name Francis BATES Relationship 
with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Born Jun Q 1865 Liverpool, Lancashire, England 
- About 1860 from the 1891 census where shown as aged 30 and aged recorded in death registration and burial register also imply about 1860. However, 1901 census shows age as 39 and 1911 census as 56! Marriage PR entry gives age as 21, the closest, and it also names his father as Paul. There was a marriage of a Paul Bates in 1861; a researcher who has seen the marriage certificate confirms this was to an Elizabeth Vester née Pollitt, indicating these were Francis' parents. (Paul is also shown as Francis' father on the 1891 census when he was with Francis and Esther and their family)
GRO ref: Bates, Francis q2 1865 Liverpool RD 8b 102; GRO online index shows mother's maiden name as Pollit
Gender Male Occupation Labourer - Shown as such when his son Joseph got married
Died Dec Q 1920 West Derby Reg Dist, Liverpool, Lancashire, England - GRO ref: BATES, Francis q4 1920 aged 59 W. Derby RD 8b 531
After the 1911 census; looking at the death registration index on FreeBMD this is the only death of a Francis Bates registered in Lancashire of one whose age suggets he was born between 1858 and 1863.
Buried 8 Dec 1920 Parochial Cemetery, Rice Lane, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England - From burial register (image on Ancestry, viewed 2 Feb 2017)
Person ID I301096 All | All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study Last Modified 13 Dec 2014
Family Esther MCCORMICK, b. 28 Oct 1868, Liverpool, Lancashire, England , d. Jun Q 1939, Liverpool North Reg Dist, Lancashire, England (Age 70 years) Married 17 Mar 1885 St. Peter’s Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England - GRO ref: Bates, Francis to McCormick, Esther q1 1885 Liverpool RD 8b 187
Details from PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 21 May 2019)
Shows Francis Bates, Bachelor, Labourer, abode Vauxhall Rd., aged 21, father Paul Bates, Porter and Esther McCormick, aged 19, Spinster, no occupation given, abode Vauxhall Rd., father John McCormick, Boiler maker
Confusingly the 1911 census shows that Francis and Esther had had 10 children two of whom had died. Since there are 8 of their children with them at the time of that census it seemed it must be the other two, with them in earlier censuses, who had died, i.e. Joseph and Francis. However, there is a James who was born in a gap between the children shown in the censuses, for whom a death can be found; the mother's maiden name in his birth registration suggests he was a son of Francis and Esther (there is no evidence of other Bates - McCormick (or similar sounding) couples having children at this time).
There is also no death registration of a Joseph of the right age in Lancashire between 1901 and 1911, nor any sign of another Joseph son of Francis of the right age born or baptised in Liverpool, or in the censuses.
It seems clear, therefore, that Francis and Esther had had 11 children, of whom 2 had died, or that they were passing off one child as theirs - but at registration not just in the census; describing illegitimate grandchildren as children in the census is not uncommon, but registering them as such would be.
Children13 children Last Modified 14 Feb 2017 Family ID F300359 Family Group Page | Family Chart
- About 1860 from the 1891 census where shown as aged 30 and aged recorded in death registration and burial register also imply about 1860. However, 1901 census shows age as 39 and 1911 census as 56! Marriage PR entry gives age as 21, the closest, and it also names his father as Paul. There was a marriage of a Paul Bates in 1861; a researcher who has seen the marriage certificate confirms this was to an Elizabeth Vester née Pollitt, indicating these were Francis' parents. (Paul is also shown as Francis' father on the 1891 census when he was with Francis and Esther and their family)