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Alfred Thomas BEETCH
1864 - 1949 (84 years)
Has no ancestors but 12 descendants in this family tree.
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Name Alfred Thomas BEETCH Relationship 
with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Born 7 Dec 1864 St. Luke’s Parish, London, Middlesex, England 
- Date according to the 1939 register.
Between 1862 and 1867, from the 1901 and 1911 censuses.
No birth registration found to match, including looking for other variants of Beetch.
Not the Thomas born in Edmonton because he was elsewhere in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.
Gender Male Died Dec Q 1949 St. Pancras Reg Dist, London, England - GRO ref: Beetch, Alfred T q4 1949 aged 84 Pancras RD 5d 423; GRO online index shows middle name as Thomas
Person ID I23749 All | England: Kent Group (in Go(a)tham One-Name Study), All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study , The descendants (and other halves) of George Goatham and Ann née Winch, The descendants (and other halves) of John Prior and Amy née Reynolds Last Modified 14 May 2021
Family 1 Isabel GILLINGHAM, b. Mar Q 1868, Lower Halstow, Kent, England , d. Dec Q 1898, St. Pancras Reg Dist, London, England (Age ~ 30 years) Married Mar Q 1892 St. Pancras Reg Dist, London, England - GRO ref: BEETCH, Alfred Thomas to GILLINGHAM, Florence Isabel q1 1892 Pancras RD 1b 186
With the bride's name given as Florence Isabel rather than simply Isabel, it is hard to be certain this is the right marriage, not having seen the marriage cert (which should give extra evidence in the form of Isabel's father's name and occupation) and with Isabel dying so soon, and so never being with Alfred in a census where the birth place should have helped.
However, not only is there no other sign of Isabel, marriage or death, as a Gillingham after the 1891 census, but in addition her name was only given as Isabel when her death was registered (and the age is exactly right in the death registration).
In addition (and importantly) there was no birth registration of a Florence Isabel Gillingham, nor is there any sign of a Gillingham marrying a Florence Isabel who could have been remarrying as a widow.
Changing Christian names does seem to have been popular at this time - at least when people were away from home and family and so could get away with it!
Children4 children Last Modified 27 Apr 2017 Family ID F9287 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family 2 Rose Ellen WRIGHT, b. Between 1862 and 1866, Brandon, Suffolk, England , d. Jun Q 1911, St. Pancras Reg Dist, London, England (Age ~ 49 years) Banns of marriage From 2 Apr 1899 to 16 Apr 1899 Christ Church, St. Pancras, London, England Married 18 Apr 1899 Christ Church, St. Pancras, London, England - From PR entry (image on Ancestry, viewed 27 Apr 2017)
Shows Alfred Thomas Beetch, aged 35, Widower, Labourer of 171 Albany St, father Thomas Beetch, a Builder married
Rose Ellen Sewell, aged 35, Widow, no occupation given, of 171 Albany St, father John Wright, a Painter
Married after Banns, by F. T. Hitling
Both signed, as did witnesses J Wilkinson and E Sewell
GRO ref: Beetch, Alfred Thomas to Sewell, Rose Ellen q2 1899 Pancras RD 1b 189
Had Rose, like Alfred's first wife seems to, altered her Christian names in some way? - I can't find a suitable birth of a Rose Ellen Wright or of a Sewell = Wright marriage. Rose could have been married more than once before, but this would not explain the absence of a birth registration.
The information about the length of the current marriage and no. of children had, not unusually, been wrongly filled in for Alfred rather than Rose in the 1911 census. Not so usual, it had been left there and not crossed out and inserted for Rose. The number of years of marriage completed is close to right - 10 rather than 11, but the no. of children seems to apply to Alfred's first marriage. It shows 4 children born to the marriage, 3 of whom were still living. This not only matches the first marriage, but if Alfred had had the same with Rose it is highly probably that the living children would have been with them at the time of the 1911 census, as not aged more than 12. However, the only children who were present were 2 from Alfred 's first marriage.
The lack of any figures for Rose and for any figures greater than the number Alfred had in his first marriage, and the lack of any Beetch with a mother's maiden name of Wright in the GRO online index suggests Alfred and Rose had no children together.
Family This couple had no children together Last Modified 8 Feb 2018 Family ID F9288 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family 3 Annie, b. 1 Dec 1875, d. Yes, date unknown Married Bef 1939 - A 'Thomas A Beetch' who I think was probably this Alfred Thomas was recorded in the 1939 register as married, and in the same house was an Annie Beetch, born 1875, also recorded as married. It seems fairly safe to assume Thomas and Annie were living as man and wife, though there seems to be no sign of a marriage. (looking at the marriage index on FreeBMD i.e. for England and Wales, thoroughly, i.e. for all that site considers phonetically similar, and then looking through the results that actually are similar, 1911 - 1939, for a Thomas A or Alfred T or Alfred); also no apparent marriage of Thomas to Annie 1880-1911, in case I am wrong in equating Alfred T with Thomas A; again found no likely marriage.
Last Modified 14 May 2021 Family ID F11615 Family Group Page | Family Chart
- Date according to the 1939 register.