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Thomas GILBERT

Thomas GILBERT

Male Est 1477 - 1529  (~ 52 years)    Has 65 ancestors and 6 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Thomas GILBERT 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born Est 1477 
    • Based on estimate for his brother John, and being shown as 3rd son in Vivian (p.405)
      No mention of bequest in his father's will conditional on him reaching the age of 21 so I wonder if he already was, meaning he would have been born no later than 1472.
    Gender Male 
    Died 5 Aug 1529 
    • From Vivian, presumably from IPM
      (Vivian shows Thomas as heir to his brother John who died in 1539 - clearly impossible, if Vivian has the right dates (the TNA catalogue entries for the IPMs suggest they are); he also shows Thomas' son Otes as heir to his (Thomas') brother John - this does make sense; I think the comment by Thomas is simply an error).
    Siblings 5 brothers and 1 sister 
    Half-siblings 1 half brother (family of Otes GILBERT and Alice MULES
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    Thomas GILBERT,   d. Yes, date unknown  (3 x Great Grandfather) 
    Joane VALLETORT,   d. Yes, date unknown  (Great Grandmother) 
    Person ID I21429  All
    Last Modified 19 Aug 2017 

    Father Otes GILBERT,   b. Abt 1417,   d. Between 1 Dec 1493 and 9 Jun 1494  (Age ~ 76 years)
    Other Partners: Alice MULES  
    Mother Elizabeth HILL,   b. Abt 1426,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married
    • * There is something wrong here *

      Shown in Vivian (p.405) but I am a bit dubious about whether this Otes and Elizabeth were the parents of the family shown here (other than Isabell). I suspect a generation may have been missed, or another wife of Otes.
      With Elizabeth generally a common name, and Otes much used in the Gilbert family there could easily have been two generations running of Otes and Elizabeth.
      On the other hand, Otes could have been an older father, and had another, younger wife. The Hill pedigree (Vivian, added by him - not in the 1620 visitation) suggests that Elizabeth was unlikely to have been young enough to be the mother of the sons shown here - she would have had to have been significantly younger than her brothers. It is possible, though, perhaps there were other children who died young and are not shown in the Hill pedigree, or Robert Hill was widowed and remarried to a younger wife, who was the mother of Elizabeth.
      Possibly most likely is that Otes Gilbert married another wife after the death of Elizabeth.

      My theory of a missing generation may have extra weight from the existence of an Otho Gilbert of Compton dated 1439 (according to the Devon Will Project) - this Otes/Otho is missing from Vivian. Seeing this is a priority.
    Family ID F7913  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Children
    +1. Otes GILBERT,   d. 18 Feb 1546/47
     
    Last Modified 17 May 2016 
    Family ID F8518  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart