John GILBERT

Abt 1475 - 1539  (~ 64 years)

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• Name	John GILBERT
  Relationship	with Teresa Ann GOATHAM
  Born	Abt 1475
  	His father's second son, first by his second marriage. Shown as aged 60 year and more when he died in 1539. (Clearly 60 would suggest born about 1479, but these older ages appear to me often to be round ones). From a read through of his father's will I don't think there was a mention of anything conditional on him reaching the age of 21 (unlike for his brothers, Otys, William and Geffery), so I wonder if he had already reached it and so was born no later than 1472. (If his brother Thomas had also reached the age of 21 then John, the eldest, must have been born even earlier).
  Gender	Male
  Died	1 May 1539
  	Date in Vivian, presumably from IPM.
  Will	7 Jul 1539	Prerogative Court of Canterbury, London, England
  	Proved
  Siblings	5 brothers and 1 sister
  1. Isabell GILBERT,   b. Est 1455,   d. Yes, date unknown ▻ Sir Thomas GRENVILLE, Knight   2. John GILBERT,   b. Abt 1475,   d. 1 May 1539  (Age ~ 64 years) + 3. Thomas GILBERT,   b. Est 1477,   d. 5 Aug 1529  (Age ~ 52 years) ▻   4. Otho GILBERT,   b. Est 1478,   d. Yes, date unknown + 5. Geffery GILBERT,   b. Est 1480,   d. 26 Feb 1551/52  (Age ~ 72 years) ▻ Joan   6. William GILBERT,   b. Est 1483,   d. Yes, date unknown   7. Canon Richard GILBERT,   b. Est 1484,   bur. 11 Apr 1524, Exeter Cathedral, Exeter, Devon, England  (Age ~ 40 years)
  Half-siblings	1 half brother (family of Otes GILBERT and Alice MULES)
  1. William GILBERT,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Origins
  Patriarch & Matriarch	Thomas GILBERT,   d. Yes, date unknown  (3 x Great Grandfather)  Joane VALLETORT,   d. Yes, date unknown  (Great Grandmother)
  Person ID	I21428	All
  Last Modified	19 Aug 2017

  
  

  Father	Otes GILBERT,   b. Abt 1417,   d. Between 1 Dec 1493 and 9 Jun 1494  (Age ~ 76 years) Other Partners: Alice MULES
  Mother	Elizabeth HILL,   b. Abt 1426,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Married	* There is something wrong here * Shown in Vivian (p.405) but I am a bit dubious about whether this Otes and Elizabeth were the parents of the family shown here (other than Isabell). I suspect a generation may have been missed, or another wife of Otes. With Elizabeth generally a common name, and Otes much used in the Gilbert family there could easily have been two generations running of Otes and Elizabeth. On the other hand, Otes could have been an older father, and had another, younger wife. The Hill pedigree (Vivian, added by him - not in the 1620 visitation) suggests that Elizabeth was unlikely to have been young enough to be the mother of the sons shown here - she would have had to have been significantly younger than her brothers. It is possible, though, perhaps there were other children who died young and are not shown in the Hill pedigree, or Robert Hill was widowed and remarried to a younger wife, who was the mother of Elizabeth. Possibly most likely is that Otes Gilbert married another wife after the death of Elizabeth. My theory of a missing generation may have extra weight from the existence of an Otho Gilbert of Compton dated 1439 (according to the Devon Will Project) - this Otes/Otho is missing from Vivian. Seeing this is a priority.
  Family ID	F7913	Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

  
  

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