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Thomas ROSE

Thomas ROSE

Male Abt 1650 - 1701  (~ 50 years)    Has 88 ancestors and 4 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Thomas ROSE 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born Abt 1650 
    • From Alumni Oxonienses where shown as aged 18 at matriculation
    Gender Male 
    Education 6 Mar 1667/68  Exeter College, Oxford University, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Matriculated 
    Buried 1700  Holy Trinity Church, Dorchester, Dorset, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Hutchins, 1st edn, vol 1, p.392 - "Thomas Rose M. D."
    Will 4 Apr 1700 
    Written 
    Died Between 4 Apr 1700 and 20 Oct 1701 
    • Between writing his will and it being proved
    Probate 20 Oct 1701  Prerogative Court of Canterbury, London, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation Dorchester, Dorset, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Physician 
    Siblings 1 brother and 4 sisters 
    Half-siblings 3 half brothers (family of Richard ROSE and Elizabeth HENLEY
    Patriarch & Matriarch
    ROZE,   d. Yes, date unknown  (2 x Great Grandfather) 
    Ursula BRYDGES,   b. Est 1510,   d. Between 26 Oct 1575 and 4 Feb 1575/76  (Age ~ 65 years)  (3 x Great Grandmother) 
    Person ID I21207  All
    Last Modified 24 Jan 2022 

    Father Richard ROSE,   b. Abt 1600,   d. Abt 1658, Wootton Fitzpaine, Dorset, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 58 years)
    Other Partners: Elizabeth HENLEY  m. Between 1614 and 1625  
    Mother Mary BRODREPP,   b. Est 1611,   d. Bef 1655, Wootton Fitzpaine, Dorset, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 43 years) 
    Married Aft 1636 
    • I am confident that Richard reamarried after his first wife had died, and that he married a Brodrepp, the sister of Christopher and John. Hutchins shows the marriage and names Richard's wife as Mary (though see below).

      It is interesting to note from Richard Rose's will that when he died Morganhayes was his; I suspect that this may have passed to the Rose family as part of the marriage settlement when Richard Rose and Mary Brodrepp married.

      I am confident that my direct ancestor,Richard's daughter Elizabeth, was not the daughter of his first wife, Elizabeth Henley.
      However, it is possible he remarried more than once after the death of his first wife, in which case I could have fused more than one person into this 'second' wife of Richard Rose.

      There is evidence that some at least of the offspring of Richard were with his Brodrepp wife: Anne expressed a wish in her will to be buried in Mapperton Church in 'my cozen Brodrips Isle' while Thomas' son Churchill is described as a kinsman in a Brodrepp will. That Richard's son Richard was probably a child of his Brodrepp wife is suggested by Richard junior's son Thomas in his will appointing Richard Brodrepp as a trustee for his grandchildren during their minority. Mary Rose is described as a cousin in the will of Christopher Brodrepp's daughter Mary.

      That just leaves Dorothy and, unfortunately, my ancestor Elizabeth, the latter being, of course, the one whose mother I am keenest to be reasonably certain about.

      The name of the Brodrepp that Richard Rose married is shown in Hutchins as Mary, although it seems clear that he has attached her in the wrong place, showing her as daughter rather than sister of Christopher Brodrepp. Although Christopher did have sons Christopher and John (as named as brothers in Richard Rose's will), if Richard Rose had married Christopher senior's daughter Mary the marriage would have been too late for them to have the children as on the tree here. In addition, Christopher senior's daughter Mary died single, leaving a will with various relations named and relationships described from which it seems clear she was that Christopher's daughter.

      Hutchins also appears to have attached John married to Elizabeth Freke as a son of Christopher senior instead of a brother. Again, the dates don't work if it was John the son of Christopher senior who married Elizabeth.

      These common small errors in Hutchins makes it clear he cannot be relied on for details, and hence with Richard's Brodrepp's wife's Christian name only known from Hutchings it must be regarded with caution - but I will use it unless or until I learn otherwise. 

      (Mary Brodrepp's grandmother was Anne Bampfield; Richard's first wife's mother names two Bampfields as friends and makes them executors of her will. These were Francis and Thomas, I think they must have been grandsons of Amias, brother of Anne and so second cousins of Mary. Amias was mentioned in more than one Morgan family document, suggesting that Anne, who was from a large family and probably not in close contact with all of her siblings, was close to Amias. Did this contact between the two families continue - was it through the Henley family's contact with the Bampfields that Richard came to know their cousin, Mary Brodrepp?)
    Family ID F8397  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Children 4 children 
    Last Modified 1 May 2016 
    Family ID F8419  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Mrs. Katherine HURDING,   d. 1709 
    Other Partners: John CASE  m. 16 Nov 1669;   The Ven. Dr. Francis FULWOOD  m. Bef 1677 
    Married 1 Sep 1695  St. Peter’s Church, Long Bredy, Dorset, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From Hutchins (1st edn, vol. 1, p.302)
      "Thomas Rose, of Dorchester, M.D. and Mrs Katherine Fulford of Long-Bridy" (in extract from the PRs; a significant number of entries in the extract refer to the Hurding family)
      Also 1677 visitation of Dorset (Hurding pedigree, Squibb transcript, p.36)
      "Katherine mar. ... 3rdly Thomas Rose, M.D. of Dorchester 1 Sep. 1695" (italics indicate data added by Squibb)
    Last Modified 24 Jan 2022 
    Family ID F9527  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

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