Alice Gertrude FINNISS

1897 - 1973  (75 years)

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• Name	Alice Gertrude FINNISS
  Relationship	with Teresa Ann GOATHAM
  Born	4 Nov 1897	Tenterden, Kent, England
  	GRO ref: Finniss, Alice Gertrude q4 1897 Tenterden RD 2a 801; GRO online index does not show a mother's maiden name (suggesting illegitimate) Actual date and month from baptism register, actual place from 1901 census. But the baptism register shows the year as 1895 - was it then or 1897 when the birth was registered? I think the latter more likely, and this is the year shown in the birth register entry (GRO copy). The census is little help, she would have been aged 3 if born in 1897, 5 if born 1895 - the 1901 census shows her age as 4! The age given at marriage is clearly a pretence (her birth cannot have been registered before she was born!), a pretence she maintained in the 1921 census (she had gone from claiming to be being aged 20 at marriage in April 1920, to 21 yrs 7 mths in June 1921). Birth registration (GRO register entry) has no significant additional info. - no father named.
  		Birth registration of Alice Gertrude FINNIS(S) Daughter - step or biological uncertain - of a Goatham, briefly known by the surname herself. (GRO register entry)
  Baptised	16 Aug 1908	St. Mary’s Church, Chatham, Kent, England
  	From PR entry (imageon CityArk,viewed 1 Jan 2016) "Alleged Date of Birth: Novr 4th 1895, Baptised: August 16, No. 178, Alice Gertrude Dr of, parents: Arthur Charles & Annie, Goatham, abode: 2 Bryant Street, [father's occupation left blank], ceremony performed by E. G. Burr"
  Gender	Female
  Also known as	Alice Gertrude GOATHAM
  Residence	1971	40, Lomond Crescent, Falkland, Fife, Scotland
  	At the time her sister Annie wrote her will.
  Died	1973	Auchtermuchty Reg Dist, Fife, Scotland
  	A beneficiary named in her sister Annie Goatham's will, written 3 June 1971 Death index on Scotland's People shows an Alice DALL, aged 75 died in 1973 in Auchtermuchty RD, ref: 418/ 61. Probably this death as the only one of an Alice Dall of the right age found in index on Scotland's People website, though doesn't include her middle name (and too early to have her maiden name). Falkland (where Alice was living in 1971) is only 3.3 miles from Auchtermuchty, probably in the RD (and / or Alice may have died in hospital in Auchtermuchty).
  Siblings	1 brother and 3 sisters
  + 1. Alice Gertrude FINNISS,   b. 4 Nov 1897, Tenterden, Kent, England ,   d. 1973, Auchtermuchty Reg Dist, Fife, Scotland  (Age 75 years) ▻ Robert Gould DALL,  m. 2 Apr 1920   2. Henrietta May (“May”) GOATHAM,   b. 25 May 1899, Charing, Kent, England ,   d. 2 May 1986, Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England  (Age 86 years)   3. Annie GOATHAM,   b. 1 Jul 1901, 8, Whittaker Street, Chatham, Kent, England ,   d. 12 Jun 1971, Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England  (Age 69 years) 4. Eva Alexandra GOATHAM,   b. 11 Apr 1904, 31, Fort Pitt Street, Chatham, Kent, England ,   d. Sep Q 1975, Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England  (Age 70 years) ▻ Albert George KIRBY,  m. Jun Q 1937 + 5. Arthur Charles FINNIS,   b. 23 Oct 1905, 2, Hartington Street, Chatham, Kent, England ,   d. Sep Q 1978, Hounslow Reg Dist, Middlesex, England  (Age 72 years) ▻ Winifred JONES,  m. 16 Sep 1934
  Half-siblings	1 half sister (family of Arthur Charles GOATHAM and Annie Maria CORNWELL)
  + 1. Jane Louisa GOATHAM,   b. 30 Jun 1888, Floods Cottage, Duncan Road, Gillingham, Kent, England ,   d. Sep Q 1981, Ealing Reg Dist, Middlesex, England  (Age 92 years) ▻ Richard WALKER,  m. 29 May 1911
  Origins
  Patriarch & Matriarch	GOATHAM,   d. Yes, date unknown  (9 x Great Grandfather)  Harriett Mary BLACKMAN,   b. Abt 1848, Tenterden, Kent, England ,   d. Sep Q 1919, Tenterden Reg Dist, Kent, England  (Age ~ 71 years)  (Grandmother)
  Person ID	I1884	All | England: Kent Group (in Go(a)tham One-Name Study), England: Kent Group - subjects of Go(a)tham One-Name Study, All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study , All subjects of the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study, The descendants (and other halves) of George Goatham and Ann née Winch
  Last Modified	19 Mar 2023

  
  

  Father	Arthur Charles GOATHAM,   b. Sep Q 1862, Bredgar, Kent, England ,   d. 7 Mar 1907, 4, Solomons Terrace, Chatham, Kent, England  (Age ~ 45 years) Other Partners: Annie Maria CORNWELL  m. 7 Nov 1887
  Mother	Annie FINNISS,   b. Dec Q 1876, Tenterden, Kent, England ,   d. 7 Mar 1909, 3, Bryant Street, Chatham, Kent, England  (Age ~ 33 years)
  Banns of marriage	From 22 May 1898 to 5 Jun 1898	St. Michael’s Church, Tenterden, Kent, England
  	From banns register entry (image on FMP, viewed 20 Jun 2019) "Arthur Charles Goatham Bachelor and Annie Finniss Spinster Both of this Parish ..."
  Married	19 Jun 1898	St. Michael’s Church, Tenterden, Kent, England
  	GRO ref: GOATHAM, Arthur Charles to Finniss, Annie q2 1898 Tenterden RD 2a 1624 Date and church from mid-Kent marriages website (11 Feb 2011) In 1908 Arthur and Annie's oldest 3 daughters were baptised, between the death of their Arthur (1907) and of Annie (the mother) (1909). Strangely, the two youngest, Eva Alexandra and Arthur Charles, were not baptised at this time. Subsequent records (marriage, 1939 register entry and death) can be found for 'Eva Alexandra', and with a unique pair of Christian names for the Goathams, there is no doubt the references are for this daughter of Arthur and Annie. The idea that both these children had died before their elder siblings were baptised can therefore be ruled out. As Eva was living there is no reason to supposed Arthur Charles had died. However, no further record has been found for Arthur (but writing in 2020 I am sure he can no longer be living). Perhaps Annie could not cope with 5 young children after the death of her husband and the youngest two went into care or were fostered / adopted. There was no formal adoption at this period and it seems to have varied whether children used their birth surname or that of their foster parents. I suspect Arthur may have used a different surname, and hence his absence from records.
  Married?	Not married or evidence to suggest they didn't marry
  Family ID	F1655	Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Robert Gould DALL,   b. 8 Aug 1901, Eden Valley Square, Frenchie, Fife, Scotland ,   d. 1960, Dunbarney and Dron Reg Dist, Scotland  (Age 58 years)
  Married	2 Apr 1920	Horsemarket, Falkland, Fife, Scotland
  	From register entry Alice married as a Finniss rather than a Goatham. Although she is recorded as aged 20 I guess this was to reduce the difference between her and her husband (aged 18). Does not give a father's name but names her mother as Alice Gertrude FINNISS. Although this is also wrong the evidence from her sister Annie GOATHAM's will points clearly to this being the marriage of Alice Gertrude FINNISS alias GOATHAM.
  Children	4 children
  1. Robert Gould DALL,   b. Abt Mar 1919, Falkland, Fife, Scotland ,   d. 1980, Kirkcaldy Reg Dist, Scotland  (Age ~ 60 years)   2. Marion Gray DALL,   b. Abt May 1921, Falkland, Fife, Scotland ,   d. Yes, date unknown ▻ John ROBERTSON  m. 1939;   John Kenneth D. LIGHTFOOT  m. 1950   3. Annie Finnis DALL,   b. 1926, Falkland Reg Dist, Fife, Scotland ,   d. 1997, Kirkcaldy Reg Dist, Scotland  (Age 71 years)   4. Janet Liddle DALL,   b. 1926, Falkland Reg Dist, Fife, Scotland ,   d. 2016, Glenrothes Reg Dist, Scotland  (Age 90 years)
  Last Modified	16 Mar 2023
  Family ID	F10259	Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

  
  

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  		Born - 4 Nov 1897 - Tenterden, Kent, England  Baptised - 16 Aug 1908 - St. Mary’s Church, Chatham, Kent, England  Residence - 1971 - 40, Lomond Crescent, Falkland, Fife, Scotland  Died - 1973 - Auchtermuchty Reg Dist, Fife, Scotland   = Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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