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Robert HYDE



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Name Robert HYDE Relationship with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Born 11 Jul 1802 Margate, Kent, England - Date from baptism entry, also seaman's register ticket has same date. Place from censuses.
Baptised 8 Aug 1802 St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England - From KFHS transcription - CD 28
Gender Male Occupation From 1819 to 1877 Mariner - All documentation, 1823-61 i.e. censuses and at the baptism of each of his 11 children describe Robert as a mariner, though the 1871 census describes him as a fisherman and his death certificate as a boatman.
His seaman's register ticket of 1844 says that he first went to sea as a boy in 1819.
Although it shows that when unemployed he resided at Margate, it was issued at Ramsgate (and reissued there in 1846) - and it shows that he was a "Seaman".
It also shows he had never served in the Royal Navy or been in the Foreign Service.
The following report appeared in the Kentish Gazette of Tuesday 31 Jan 1854 - could refer to his son but I think it's more likely this Robert:
Under the heading "Margate" and subheading "Police Court, Wednesday":
(Before W. H. S. George, Thos Blackburn, W. J. Gilder, Esqrs., and Rev. G. W. Sicklemore.)
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Robert Hyde was summoned for an assault on Edward Emptage. The evidence in this case was taken ex parte, the defendant not appearing. The plaintiff being sworn, deposed that on Thursday last he, with others, had engaged to go fishing with the defendant, and after getting the boat read for sea the defendant refused to go, and asked them to push the boat in again, which they refused to do, and told him to push it in himself if he wanted it pushed in. He then gave the plaintiff a blow on the side of the head.
- The case being clearly proved, the Bench convicted him in a fine of 5s. and 10s. 6d. costs; in default, 21 days in the House of Correction at Dover.
Residence 1841 27, Pleasant Place, Margate, Kent, England - At the time of the 1841 Robert and Mary were living in Pleasant Place with their 7 children (Ann ,Sarah, their 2nd son named Robert, Maria, Emily, John and William)
Physical Description 1844 - Height: 5ft 3½inches; Hair: Brown; Complexion: Fair; Eyes: Dk(?) Blue; Marks: none
(from seaman's register ticket)
Residence From 1851 to 1855 3, Pump Lane, Margate, Kent, England [1]
- At the time of the 1851 census Robert and Mary were living in Pump Lane with their 5 children (Robert, Emily, John, William and Ann)
Their house along with neighbouring property were put up for sale in 1855, in 4 lots, being advertised in the South Eastern Gazette.
Lot 3 was described as "A similar freehold dwelling-house, adjoining lot 2, being No. 3, Pump-lane, in the occupation of Mr. Robert Hyde, at £5 4s. per annum." (i.e. the rent was 2/- a week)
No. 2, the house to which it was similar was described as "containing 4 rooms, with frontage also in Fountain-lane" - I would guess from this that No. 3 also had 4 rooms, but be less sure whether it too had frontage in Fountain Lane.
Whether the new owners wanted the Hyde family out, or put the rent up unacceptably or whether Robert decided to move - possibly due to needing less rooms as more children left home - but by the time of the 1861 census the family had left Pump Lane.
Residence From 1861 to 1871 3, Carters Cottages, Margate, Kent, England - At the time of the 1861 census Robert and Mary were iving at 3 Carters' Cottages with their children William and Mary Ann and their granddaughter Jane Andrews, and it was there that Mary died in 1870.
At the time of the 1871 census Robert was still living there, now just with his same granddaughter, Jane (now aged 16, a laundress).
Sometime between then and his death he must have been admitted to the Union Workhouse in Minster.
Died 11 Jun 1877 The Union Workhouse, Minster in Thanet, Kent, England Cause: Natural decay - GRO Ref: HYDE, Robert q2 1877 aged 75 Thanet RD 2a 487
The Workhouse was demolished in 1989 - I was too late finding a connection to take a photo, but information about it can be found on The Workhouse website - Isle of Thanet page.
Death certificate for Robert Hyde (b 1802) Buried 14 Jun 1877 St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England - KFHS transcript CD 28
aged 75, abode Thanet Union
Siblings
3 brothers and 5 sisters Patriarch & Matriarch John HYDE, b. Est 1750, (probably), North Weald Bassett, Essex, England, d. Between 1778 and 1783 (Age ~ 28 years) (Grandfather)
Ann ATWOOD, b. Abt 1778, (probably), Margate, Kent, England, d. Apr 1827, Poplar, Middlesex, England
(Age ~ 49 years) (Mother)
Person ID I410 All | Teresa's direct ancestors Last Modified 14 Nov 2022
Father Robert HYDE, [Parents?], b. Abt 1778, (possibly), Middlesex, England , d. 28 Oct 1845, No. 5, London Street, Ratcliff, Stepney, Middlesex, England
(Age ~ 67 years)
Mother Ann ATWOOD, b. Abt 1778, (probably), Margate, Kent, England , d. Apr 1827, Poplar, Middlesex, England
(Age ~ 49 years)
Banns of marriage From 19 Jan 1800 to 2 Feb 1800 St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England - From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 5 Oct 2012):
"Banns of Marriage between Robert Hyde & Ann Atwood both of this Parish were published ... by me W Chapman"
Married 3 Feb 1800 St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England - From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 6 Dec 2012)
By banns, both otp, Robert signed, Ann made her mark; witnesses were Richard Wilson and Ann Wilson
(transcript also on KFHS CD 28)
Family ID F299 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family Mary Ann GRIGGS, b. 2 Sep 1804, Margate, Kent, England , d. 26 Dec 1870, Carters Cottages, Margate, Kent, England
(Age 66 years)
Married 5 Jul 1823 St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England - By banns, ba and sp, both otp, both signed; witnesses were Wm Bayley and James Dixon
(transcript on KFHS CD 28)
Children
11 children Last Modified 15 Nov 2011 Family ID F298 Family Group Page | Family Chart
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Event Map Click to hide Born - 11 Jul 1802 - Margate, Kent, England Baptised - 8 Aug 1802 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England Married - 5 Jul 1823 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England Child - Maria HYDE - 1826 - Margate, Kent, England Child - Robert HYDE - 20 May 1832 - Margate, Kent, England Child - Maria HYDE - 1834 - Margate, Kent, England Child - Emily HYDE - 25 Nov 1836 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England Child - John HYDE - Dec Q 1838 - Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England Child - William HYDE - Dec Q 1840 - Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England Child - Mary Ann HYDE - Sep Q 1843 - Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England Residence - From 1851 to 1855 - 3, Pump Lane, Margate, Kent, England Died - Cause: Natural decay - 11 Jun 1877 - The Union Workhouse, Minster in Thanet, Kent, England Buried - 14 Jun 1877 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England = Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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Sources - [S103] Newspaper ‘The South Eastern Gazette’ onThe Kent Messenger Group Digital Archive, Kent., (http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/digitalarchive.aspx :), "Margate - Valuable Freehold Property for sale by auction," 7 8 1855, online archives (http://www.ukpressonline.co.uk/ukpressonline/getDocument/KMSG_1855_08_07_003?fileType=PDFsearch=%22hyde%20margate%20robert%22 : accessed 2 Apr 2013), p. 3, col. 6. (Reliability: 4), 2 Apr 2013.
Margate
Valuable Freehold Property,
For sale by auction,
By Messrs. Jenkins & Smith,
At the York Hotel on Monday, the 13th of August, 1855, at Two o'clock in the afternoon.
Lot 1. All that capital freehold dwelling-house, with old-established Grocer's Shop, eligibly situate for trade, being 8, Bridge-street, facing the market, occupying the front site between the Fountain Inn and Pump-lane, possessing the rate advantage of three frontages, let, together with lot 2, to Mr. F. Winch, grocer, at a clear yearly rental of £25, he doing all repairs and paying all taxes.
Lot 2. - The freehold dwelling-house, adjoining lot 1, being No. 2, Pump-lane, containing 4 rooms with frontage also in Fountain-lane, in the occupation of Mr. Winch, as above described.
Lot 3. - A similar freehold dwelling-house, adjoining lot 2, being No. 3, Pump-lane, in the occupation of Mr. Robert Hyde, at £5 4s. per annum.
Lot 4. - A similar freehold dwelling-house, aSjoining lot 3, being No. 4, Pump-lane, in the occupation of Mr. J. Rowe, at £6 19s. per annum.
For printed particulars and conditions of sale apply to Messrs. Brooke and Mertens, Solicitors, Cecil-square; or to the Auctioneers, Hawley-square, Margate.