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Robert HYDE
1832 - 1899 (67 years)
Has 96 ancestors and 85 descendants in this family tree.
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Name Robert HYDE Relationship 
with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Born 20 May 1832 Margate, Kent, England 
- Date from Seaman's Register Ticket (issued in 1846); also shows aged when ticketed as 14, yet date was 20 Apr 1846 - i.e. a month before he reached the age of 14.
Baptised 8 Jul 1832 St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England - From transcription in Margate library, confirmed by KFHS transcription - CD 28
Gender Male In the Dock 12 May 1869 Margate, Kent, England [1] For stealing a large cannonball - A report appeared in the South Eastern Gazette on Monday 17th May 1869, in the section of Margate news:
Stealing a 68-Pound Shot. - A mariner named Robert Hyde was charged before the borough Bench on Wednesday with stealing, on or about the 26th of March last, a 68-pound iron shot, of the value of 20s., the property of the Lords of the Admiralty. - Mr. Boys prosecuted on behalf of the Lords of the Admiralty. He explained the circumstances under which the shot was missed from the Newgate Coastguard station, and how it was traced to the prisoner and recovered; and his statement was corroborated by Mr. Hart, the chief officer at the Newgate Coastguard Station, Mrs. Craycraft, and the superintendent of police. Mr. Boys did not press the case hard against the prisoner, and the Bench contented themselves with sending him for seven days' hard labour in Dover gaol.
A more detailed account had appeared in the Thanet Advertiser on Saturday 15th May 1869, in the section of Margate news:
"
Stealing a 68-Pound Shot. - A mainer named
Robert Hyde was charged before the borough Bench on
Wednesday with stealing, on or about the 26th March
last, a 68 pound iron shot, of the value of 20s., the
property of the Lords of the Admiralty, and
stated that he should proceed in the case as a petty
felony, and not under the Naval Stores Act. He ex-
plained the circumstances under which the shot was
missed from the Newgate Coastguard Station, and how
it was traced to the prisoner and recovered; and his
statement was corroborated by Mr. Hart, the chief officer
at the Newgate Coastguard Station, Mrs. Craycraft and
the superintendent of police. From the circumstances
thus adduced it would appear that about the time in
which the theft was alleged to have taken place the
Coastguard were busily employed about a wreck, which
they succeeded in getting afloat and taking round to
Ramsgate. The station was thus deserted for a short
time, and it would seem that during their absence some
one came and abstracted one of two iron 68 pounder
shots that were embedded in mortar at the top of either
column forming the gateway. A short time afterwards
it was offered to Mrs. Craycraft, the wife of a marine
store dealer, by the prisoner, for sale. Mrs. Craycraft
volunteered to give 6d. for it, the prisoner having stated
that he picked it up off the beach. There was some
sand, according to her statement, sticking to the tar on
the shot. The prisoner said 6d. was not enough, and
Mrs. Craycraft told the prisoner that he might take it away.
He then agreed to take the sixpence. On the chief offi-
cer missing the shot inquiries were instituted, and it
was found to have been sold to Mr. Craycraft. The
prisoner was then taxed with the theft, and he repeated
the tale he had told to Mrs. Craycraft. - To disprove
this, however, it was stated that there were no guns to
carry shot of that calibre between Dover and Sheerness,
and therefore it was scarcely possible that it could have
been found as represented by the prisoner; and there
was no sand seen attached to the shot when given up to
the superintendent, though mortar and tar were sticking
to it. - Mr. Boys did not press the case hard against the
prisoner, and the Bench contented themselves with
sending him for seven days' hard labour in Dover gaol.
- Mr. Boys invited the Bench to express a word of cau-
tion to Mrs. Craycraft, but they did not accept the
invitation."
Prisoner Aft 12 May 1869 The Gaol, Dover, Kent, England Seven days hard labour - For his theft of the cannonball
Residence From 1871 to 1881 5A, New Cross Street, Margate, Kent, England - Robert and Ann were living with their children Helen Elizabeth, Sarah Ann and George Robert in 1871, but by 1881 just George remained living at home with his parents. (All 3 daughters were probably in domestic service - none had yet married).
Residence 1891 2, New Cross Street, Margate, Kent, England - A boarder, 20 yr old Frederick Fullager, a grocer's assistant, was living with Robert and Ann in 1891, but all their children had left home.
Occupation Boatman [2] - Boatman on death certificate, mariner in all other entries, including the 1891 census.
In 1862 Robert was called upon to rescue a man from drowning, which he did successfully and for which he was rewarded - with all of one shilling!
This was reported in The Era (London, England), Sunday, September 28, 1862; Issue 1253, as follows:
Reward for Saving Life at Margate - One day last week, while a commissioned boatman at the Coast Guard Station, named Braybrook, was on duty at the battery, his attention was attracted to a person bathing from one of the Pettman's Bathing Machines, who was calling out loudly for help, and he, Braybrook, finding he could not get the boat belonging to the station launched in time to save him, hailed a boat out at sea, manned by Robert Hyde, jun who immediately rowed to the drowning man and succeeded in saving him from a watery grave, for he was only a half a head and his two hands above water, he was placed in a bathing machine, and having sufficiently recovered from his exhaustion, afterwards went away. For his exertions and for having actually saved his life, the drowning man presented the boatman with the munificent sum of "one shilling".
Thanks to Suzannah Foad for posting this on the RootsWeb Isle-of-Thanet list.
A very similar account to the above (lacking a few details but with no extra) appeared in the South Eastern Gazette of 23 Sep 1862, p.5 col. 4.
Buried 1899 The Cemetery, Margate, Kent, England Died 21 May 1899 2, New Cross Street, Margate, Kent, England Cause: General Paralysis (i.e. Syphilis) - GRO ref: Hyde, Robert, aged 67, q2 1899 Thanet RD 2a 582
Date and place from death certificate.
In the "Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald" on Saturday 03 June 1899:
"HYDE - On the 21st May, at New Cross Street, Margate, Robert Hyde, aged 67."
His death certificate showed he died of "Paralysis General 30 years", death registered by his sister Mary Ann Gisby, present at the death.
I at first assumed the cause meant that Robert had been paralysed for 30 years - which would have meant it started in 1869, making it surprising that he is recorded as boatman etc. to 1891, with nothing recording him as "formerly a boatman / mariner".
If the problem started around 1869 Robert would have only been about 37 - young enough that a stroke would have been very unlikely; the paralysis could have been caused by an illness or an accident.
But I have now discovered that "general paralysis" is often used as short for "general paralysis of the insane" - the tertiary stage of syphilis! The first symptoms of syphilis (or whatever illness Robert had*) may have shown 30 years before his death, but not been sufficient to stop him working.
* - the Victorian doctors were keen to diagnose syphilis; current medical knowledge means that it is now considered that these diagnoses included a number of other conditions, so we can't be sure that Robert had syphilis.
However, it is noticeable that Robert and Sarah's last child was also born 30 years before his death, when Sarah was only in her early 30s. Syphilis could explain this, commonly causing miscarriage and still birth.
Death certificate for Robert Hyde (b 1832) Siblings3 brothers and 7 sisters Patriarch & Matriarch 
John HYDE, b. Est 1750, (probably), North Weald Bassett, Essex, England, d. Between 1778 and 1783 (Age ~ 28 years) (Great Grandfather) 
Mary SETTERFIELD, bap. Between 22 Aug 1756 and 23 Jul 1758, St. Mary the Virgin Church, Minster in Thanet, Kent, England, bur. 8 Sep 1824, St. Laurence’s Church, St. Lawrence in Thanet, Kent, England (Age ~ 68 years) (Great Grandmother) Person ID I358 All | Teresa's direct ancestors, England: Kent Group (in Go(a)tham One-Name Study), All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study Last Modified 17 Oct 2020
Father Robert HYDE, b. 11 Jul 1802, Margate, Kent, England , d. 11 Jun 1877, The Union Workhouse, Minster in Thanet, Kent, England (Age 74 years) Mother Mary Ann GRIGGS, b. 2 Sep 1804, Margate, Kent, England , d. 26 Dec 1870, Carters Cottages, Margate, Kent, England (Age 66 years) Married 5 Jul 1823 St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England - By banns, ba and sp, both otp, both signed; witnesses were Wm Bayley and James Dixon
(transcript on KFHS CD 28)
Family ID F298 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family Ann FULLER, b. Abt Aug 1836, Bridge, Kent, England , d. 22 Feb 1915, 68, Byron Road, Margate, Kent, England (Age ~ 78 years)
Other Partners: William NEWING m. Dec Q 1902Married 14 Feb 1857 St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England - GRO ref: Hyde, Robert to Fuller, Ann q1 1857 Thanet RD 2a 719
Details from PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 24 Jan 2018)
The title line of the entry shows the year as 1857, although the 'when married' field says 'February 14th 1856'! It is, though, between entries for Jan 1857 and Feb 15 1857, so I think it is safe to assume it was in 1857.
Ages given as 24 and 21, bach and sp, Robert a mariner, both of King St., son of Robert Hyde, mariner and dau of George Fuller, labourer. Witnesses were William Martin and Maria Martin. Robert and Ann both signed, the witnesses (Robert's sister and her husband) made their marks.
Children4 children Last Modified 24 Jan 2018 Family ID F256 Family Group Page | Family Chart
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Born - 20 May 1832 - Margate, Kent, England 
Baptised - 8 Jul 1832 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England Married - 14 Feb 1857 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England Child - Phyllis Ann HYDE - 22 Feb 1859 - Margate, Kent, England Child - Ellen (Helen) Elizabeth HYDE - Jun Q 1860 - Margate, Kent, England 
Child - Sarah Ann HYDE - 5 Mar 1862 - New Cross Street, Margate, Kent, England Child - George Robert HYDE - 27 Nov 1868 - Margate, Kent, England In the Dock - For stealing a large cannonball - 12 May 1869 - Margate, Kent, England 
Residence - From 1871 to 1881 - 5A, New Cross Street, Margate, Kent, England 
Residence - 1891 - 2, New Cross Street, Margate, Kent, England 
Buried - 1899 - The Cemetery, Margate, Kent, England Died - Cause: General Paralysis (i.e. Syphilis) - 21 May 1899 - 2, New Cross Street, Margate, Kent, England = Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install) Pin Legend 
Sources - [S103] Newspaper ‘The South Eastern Gazette’ onThe Kent Messenger Group Digital Archive, Kent., (http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/digitalarchive.aspx :), "Margate ... Stealing a 68-Pound Shot," 19 May 1869, online archives (http://www.ukpressonline.co.uk/ukpressonline/getDocument/KMSG_1869_05_17_005?fileType=PDF&#search=%22hyde%20margate%20robert%22 : accessed 2 Apr 2013), p. 5, col. 4. (Reliability: 2), 2 Apr 2013.
Hyde was not a common name in Margate - at this time all appear to have been the family of Robert (bapt 1802) and his wife.
But I don't know if this article refers to the Robert bapt 1802 or his son bapt 1832. Both were mariners. I am simply guessing that is more likely to have been the c.37 year old rather than the 67 year old. - [S103] Newspaper ‘The South Eastern Gazette’ onThe Kent Messenger Group Digital Archive, Kent., (http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/digitalarchive.aspx :), "Margate ... Reward for Life Saving," 23 Sep 1862, online archives (http://www.ukpressonline.co.uk/ukpressonline/getDocument/KMSG_1862_09_23_005?fileType=PDF&#search=%22hyde%20margate%20robert%22 : accessed 2 Apr 2013), p. 5, col. 4. (Reliability: 3), 2 Apr 2013.