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Frederick Edward William BAKER
1875 - 1944 (68 years)
Has 59 ancestors and 4 descendants in this family tree.
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Name Frederick Edward William BAKER Relationship 
with Teresa Ann GOATHAM Born 24 Dec 1875 45, Pembury Street, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 
- GRO ref: Goatham, Frederick Edward W q1 1876 Milton RD 2a 841; GRO online index does not show a mother's maiden name and shows Christian names as Frederick Edward William
Actual date from 1939 register.
Details from birth registration (GRO register entry)
Although born as a Goatham, he used his step-father's surname Baker for most of his life.
Not only does the nearly four years between his birth and the marriage of his mother to Edward BAKER suggest he was probably not Edward's son, but in addition the 1881 census shows him as a Goatham, and as 'Son in L' of Edward Jarett Baker,'son in law' being a term used in the past for what we now only call 'stepson', clearly implying he was not the biological son of Edward.
Further to this in 1877 Charlotte sought and obtained a maintenance payment from one Edwin ALLEN who she accused of being Frederick's father. The case was heard in the Sittingbourne Petty Sessions on 15 Jan, 1877. Although the magistrates ordered Edwin to pay maintenance the case was not clear cut:
"... the Chairman [of the magistrates] said that this was one of those painful cases in which the evidence was very contradictory, showing that one side or the other must have committed perjury. They believed the evidence of the complainant [Charlotte, Frederick's mother], and had therefore made an order that the defendant should pay 3s 6d per week towards the support of the child until it was 16 years old, with the usual expenses.
Mr Glyn [barrister for the defendant, Edwin ALLEN] gave notice that the defendant would appeal against the decision at the quarter sessions."
(from the East Kent, Sittingbourne, Faversham, and Sheerness Gazette, 20 Jan 1877, p. , col. 3-4)
If Edwin ALLEN did appeal I have yet to find a report of the case and the outcome.
Although it seems reasonable to me to suppose the magistrates, who not only heard the words that were said, which we can read a report of, but heard how they were said and saw the body language, were better placed than I am to judge Edwin to be the father, we have to remember they would not have been entirely neutral, there must have been, even if subconcious, a desire on their part to find Edwin was the father and so reduce the chance of Frederick and his mother becoming a burden on the rate payers. Had Charlotte constructed a story to convince the magistrates? From the petty sessions case if Edwin was not the father the most likely would seem to be one Thomas BATES, with whom Frederick's mother had been 'walking out' before becoming pregnant. There seems to be some evidence that he was the father (or at least, that Charlotte had accused him of being), but if he were why did Charlotte not bring a case against him? Maybe she had accused him not because she believed he was, but because she hoped he would believe it and marry her (Edwin ALLEN was already married so not in a position to marry Charlotte). Or, once she had realised Tom would not marry her did she think she stood a better chance of getting maintenance from Edwin? Possibly Charlotte had thought Tom the father, but when Frederick was born she realised the date was wrong and it must have been Edwin.
Baptised 3 Nov 1878 Holy Trinity Church, Sittingbourne, Kent, England - From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 20 Jul 2019)
Gender Male Education 1881 Scholar Census 3 Apr 1881 1, Draysons Square, Faversham, Kent, England Census 5 Apr 1891 35, Upper Brents, Faversham, Kent, England Residence 1901 Mauritius Road, Greenwich, London, England Occupation 1901 General Labourer Census 31 Mar 1901 38, Mauritius Road, Greenwich, Kent, England Residence 1911 23A, Aldeburgh Street, Greenwich, London, England - With his wife and their three surviving children.
Occupation 1911 Gasworks Fireman Census 2 Apr 1911 23A, Aldeburgh Street, Greenwich, London, England Also known as Frederick Edward William GOATHAM Occupation Bef 1939 Gas Collector - Shown as retired in the 1939 register
Residence 1939 Morningside, Winchester Road, Alton, Hampshire, England - With his wife and one other (latter closed as at 28 Nov 2016)
(from the 1939 register, Ref: RG101/2365E/006/43 Letter Code: EEAU)
Will 28 May 1940 Written Probate 17 Jan 1944 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Calendar entry - "Baker Frederick Edward William of Morningside Winchester-road Four Marks Alton Hampshire died 17 January 1944 Probate Bristol 7 March to Jane Mary Ann Baker widow.
Effects £972 17s."
Child Status Illegitimate Died 17 Jan 1944 Morningside, Winchester Road, Four Marks, Alton, Hampshire, England - GRO ref: Baker, Frederick E W q1 1944 aged 68 Alton RD 2c 260; GRO online index shows Christian names as Frederick Edward William
Actual date and place from probate calendar entry
Half-siblings1 half brother (family of Thomas (“Tom”) BATES and Charlotte (“Lotty”) GOATHAM) Half-siblings3 half brothers and 5 half sisters (family of Edward Jarett BAKER and Charlotte (“Lotty”) GOATHAM) Person ID I1406 All | England: Kent Group (in Go(a)tham One-Name Study), England: Kent Group - subjects of Go(a)tham One-Name Study, All in the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study , All subjects of the Goatham / Gotham One-Name Study, The descendants (and other halves) of George Goatham and Ann née Winch, The descendants (and other halves) of John Prior and Amy née Reynolds Last Modified 24 Jun 2023
Father Edwin ALLEN, bap. 22 Mar 1835, St. Michael’s Church, Sittingbourne, Kent, England , d. Mar Q 1888, Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England (Age ~ 52 years)
Other Partners: Sarah Ann RANSOM m. 3 Feb 1856Mother Charlotte (“Lotty”) GOATHAM, b. Mar Q 1857, Bredgar, Kent, England , d. Jun Q 1912, Faversham Reg Dist, Kent, England (Age ~ 55 years)
Other Partners: Thomas (“Tom”) BATES m. to Feb 1875; Ralph MILWAY m. Abt May 1875; Edward Jarett BAKER m. 5 Oct 1879Married From 28 2 1875 to Aug 1875 Married? Not married or evidence to suggest they didn't marry Family ID F1101 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Father Thomas (“Tom”) BATES, b. Abt 1857, Higham, Kent, England , d. Yes, date unknown
Other Partners: Mary A.Mother Charlotte (“Lotty”) GOATHAM, b. Mar Q 1857, Bredgar, Kent, England , d. Jun Q 1912, Faversham Reg Dist, Kent, England (Age ~ 55 years)
Other Partners: Edwin ALLEN m. From 28 2 1875 to Aug 1875; Ralph MILWAY m. Abt May 1875; Edward Jarett BAKER m. 5 Oct 1879Married to Feb 1875 Married? Not married or evidence to suggest they didn't marry Family ID F3713 Family Group Page | Family Chart
Family Jane Mary Ann SCHULTZ, b. 27 Sep 1879, Poplar, Middlesex, England , d. Sep Q 1956, Surrey South West Reg Dist, Surrey, England (Age 76 years) Married 25 Dec 1899 All Saints’ Church, Poplar, Middlesex, England - From the 1911 census where shown as aged 11 years
GRO ref: Baker, Frederick Edward W to Schulty, Jane Mary A q4 1899 Poplar RD 1c 1164
Details from PR entry (image on Ancestry, viewed 9 Sep 2019)
Children4 children Last Modified 25 Jan 2020 Family ID F8914 Family Group Page | Family Chart
- GRO ref: Goatham, Frederick Edward W q1 1876 Milton RD 2a 841; GRO online index does not show a mother's maiden name and shows Christian names as Frederick Edward William
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Born - 24 Dec 1875 - 45, Pembury Street, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 
Baptised - 3 Nov 1878 - Holy Trinity Church, Sittingbourne, Kent, England 
Census - 5 Apr 1891 - 35, Upper Brents, Faversham, Kent, England 
Married - 25 Dec 1899 - All Saints’ Church, Poplar, Middlesex, England 
Census - 31 Mar 1901 - 38, Mauritius Road, Greenwich, Kent, England 
Child - Sidney Frank BAKER - 26 Dec 1903 - Greenwich, Kent, England Child - Hilda May BAKER - 4 Feb 1908 - Greenwich, Kent, England 
Residence - 1911 - 23A, Aldeburgh Street, Greenwich, London, England Census - 2 Apr 1911 - 23A, Aldeburgh Street, Greenwich, London, England 
Probate - Calendar entry - 17 Jan 1944 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England = Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install) Pin Legend 
