Mary Elizabeth GALE

Female Abt 1819 - 1892  (~ 73 years)    Has 2 ancestors but no descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Mary Elizabeth GALE 
    Relationshipwith Andrew GOTHAM
    Born Abt 1819  East Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From censuses
    Baptised 17 Jan 1819  St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 10 Aug 2018)
    Gender Female 
    Died Dec Q 1892  Newton Abbot Reg Dist, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: Gotham, Mary aged 73 q4 1892 Newton A. RD 5b 70
    Buried 24 Oct 1892  St. Michael the Archangel’s Church, East Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 13 Nov 2014)
      "No. 358 Mary Gotham, abode East Teignmouth, buried: October 24th, aged 73 years, by whom the Ceremony was performed: James Veysey Vicar"
    Notes 
    • Four women on the marriage index page, census entries for the couple show Thomas married a Mary Elizabeth - must be Mary Elizabeth Gale
    Person ID I76  Gothams
    Last Modified 10 Aug 2018 

    Father William GALE,   b. Abt 1782, Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar Q 1865, Newton Abbot Reg Dist, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 83 years) 
    Mother Elizabeth BAKER,   b. Abt 1786,   bur. 23 Jan 1821, St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 35 years) 
    Banns of marriage From 12 Oct 1806 to 26 Oct 1806  St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 10 Aug 2018) 
    Married 16 Nov 1806  St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 10 Aug 2018)
      Did William marry once or two or three times?
      The picture is unclear. Certainly a 34 year old Elizabeth Gale was buried in West Teignmouth on 23 Jan 1821, and who would threfore have been about 5 years younger than William and about 20 when they married. It seems likely she was William's wife, especially as when a child of William was baptised in December that year the mother was named as Mary. All six earlier children had the mother's name given as Elizabeth. The 1841 census also names William's wife as Mary (or at least, the woman in the same house of a similar age was Mary Gale - of course this could, in theory, have been a sister or cousin).
      Whilst this seems straightforward I have not found a marriage for a William and Mary in 1821 that could be theirs, and the 1851 census names William's wife as Elizabeth. Was this a third wife? I can't find a death registration or burial of a Mary between 1841 and 1851 (the Mary Ann who death was registered in Newton Abbot RD in 1846 was aged only 27). William was buried in West Teignmouth churchyard so we might expect his wife would have been too, but the only likely Mary was buried there in 1857, aged 78 i.e. the same age as the 'Elizabeth' who was with William at the time of the 1851 census. William was a widower in 1861 so 'Elizabeth' had died, but there is no death registration or burial of an Elizabeth between 1851 and 1861 that fits. Hence  I don't think William was married 3 times, I think that 'Elizabeth' in 1851 was the same woman who was elsewhere recorded as Mary. But now the question is was 'Elizabeth' a mistake, or was she actually Mary Elizabeth (or Elizabeth Mary)? She would have been born about 1776, when two Christian names was uncommon (apart from Mary Ann). 'Mary's son was given the middle name Baker, the maiden name of William's first wife, and so could indicate she was still his wife. On the other hand, if Elizabeth had died then William and Mary got together pretty quickly after the death. The most likely explanation for such a quick relationship is that a sister moved in to keep house and look after the children. If the sister was Elizabeth's then her maiden name would also be Baker, and hence it would be natural to use that name for her son.

      I think William probably married twice, but will look for baptism evidence of sisters Mary and Elizabeth or of a Mary Elizabeth / Elizabeth Mary.
    Children 6 children 
    Family ID F7897    |  Family Chart

    Family Thomas Edwin (“Uncle Ned”) GOTHAM,   c. 3 Mar 1819, St. Saviour’s Church, Dartmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Apr 1907, Teign View Terrace , East Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 88 years) 
    Banns of marriage 31 Oct 1847 to 14 Nov 1847  St. Michael the Archangel’s Church, East Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Married 12 Dec 1847  St. Michael the Archangel’s Church, East Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3
    • I am sure that Thomas Edwin was not being truthful when he gave a name and occupation for his father. Although there were many Thomas GOTHAMs, the middle name is distinctive. In addition, although he was baptised in Dartmouth his mother clearly returned to Teignmouth so it is natural he should too.
      Had he given a more plausible occupation for his father one might pause a little before deciding there was only one Thomas Edwin, but the 'gentleman' shows this to be untrue. (It is possible he was the illegitimate son of a gentleman, but not one called Thomas GOTHAM).

      GRO ref: Gotham, Thomas Edwin to Gale, Mary Elizabeth q4 1847 Newton Abbot RD 10 231
    Last Modified 9 Dec 2016 
    Family ID F26    |  Family Chart

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    1. [S14] Devon Parish Registers - West Teignmouth, St. James (West Teignmouth, Devon, England), (brightsolid online publishing limited. FindMyPast. findmypast.co.uk : 2014.), Banns of Marriage of Thomas Edwin GOTHAM to Mary Elizabeth GALE; accessed 6 Sep 2014 (Reliability: 3).

      "[No. 157] Banns of Marriage between
      Thomas Edwin Gotham Bachelor
      and Mary Elizabeth Gale Spinster
      Both of this Parish
      1st Time, Sunday, Octr 31st by R B Bradley
      2nd Time, Sunday, Nov 7th by G R Gracey
      3rd Time, Sunday,      14th by R B Bradley
      Married Decr 12th 1847"
      (on page 79, under heading 'The Year 1847')
      Archive reference: 3231A/PR/1/14
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    2. [S2] FreeBMD, FreeBMD, ((  http://www.freebmd.org.uk/  )), accessed 6 Sep 2014), Marriage of Thomas Edwin GOTHAM to Mary Elizabeth GALE. (Reliability: 3).
      GRO ref: Gotham, Thomas Edwin to GALE, Mary Elizabeth q4 1847 Newton Abbot RD 10 231
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    3. [S16] Devon Parish Registers - East Teignmouth, St. Michael (East Teignmouth, Devon, England), (brightsolid online publishing limited. FindMyPast. findmypast.co.uk : 2014.), Marriage of Thomas Edwin GOTHAM to Mary Elizabeth GALE; accessed 6 Sep 2014 (Reliability: 3).

      "1847. Marriage solemnized by Banns in the Parish of East Teignmouth in the County of Devon
      No. 108, Decr. 12th. Thomas Edwin Gotham, age: full, Bachelor, Mariner, residence: East Teignmouth, Father's Name: Thomas Gotham, Rank etc.: Gentleman
      Mary Elizabeth Gale, age: full, Spinster, Servant, residence: East Teignmouth, Father's name: William Gale, Tailor
      Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by me, R B Bradley
      This Marriage was solemnized between us, Thomas Edwin Gotham, Mary Elizabeth Gale
      in the Presence of us, Stephen Matterface, The mark of X Robert Wannell"
      (on page 54)
      Archive reference: 3231A/PR/1/8
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