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Mary Ann GRIGGS

Mary Ann GRIGGS

Female 1804 - 1870  (66 years)    Has 38 ancestors and 210 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Mary Ann GRIGGS 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born 2 Sep 1804  Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • dob from PR entry for baptism
    Baptised 29 Oct 1804  St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Is this the right baptism for my ancestor Mary Griggs? - see research notes (bottom of page)
      From PR entry but dates not quite clear. Could be born 2nd Sep, baptised 29th October but alternatively could be born 29 Oct, baptised 4 Nov. The way the dates have been written I think the latter more likely, but such a small gap between birth and baptism would have been unusual, unless it was thought she might be close to death.
    Gender Female 
    Died 26 Dec 1870  Carters Cottages, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: q4 1870 aged 67 Thanet RD 2A 477
    Death certificate for Mary Griggs
    Death certificate for Mary Griggs
    Buried 29 Dec 1870  St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • KFHS CD 28
      Mary, aged 67, no address - abode just given as "Margate"
    Notes 
    • (Research):Named as 'Mary' everywhere (marriage, children's baptisms, 1841-61 censuses, dth cert and bur PR entry) apart from potential baptism. If I have the wrong baptism, then she may just be Mary not Mary Ann.

      Possible parents shown. Mary appears not to have been "of age" when she married so parental consent would have been needed; do banns have her father's name? (KFHS CD 28 only has banns to 1806 and only marr not banns are on FMP, as at 13 Apr 2013)

      Evidence for the parents shown:
      - only Mary born close to 1803 with bapt at St. John's Margate - and 1851 and 1861 censuses show Mary as born Margate;
      - no Mary bapt close to 1803 in St. Peters (Broadstairs) or St. Lawrences (Ramsgate)
      - I have a DNA match with a descendant of Maria Griggs, sister of Charles Sladden Griggs. My relationship to the descendant appears to be 5th cousin once removed; it is 32 cM - larger than would be expected for this sort of relationship, but certainly possible. Significantly the match has researched all of their lines to some extent - most are in parts of the country where I have no ancestors, so unless there is an NPE, or some seriously erroneous research a Kent link is the most likely. Given that 32 cM is large for a 5c1r it gets significantly less likely if the match is a generation or 2 earlier.     

      Against:

      - bapt is for a Mary Ann, Ann never found in any other records (weak against - if always called Mary);
      - birth and bapt are in 1804, but dth and bur records suggest 1803 (weak against - small discrepancies not uncommon);
      - no son called Charles (again weak against)
      - Charles and Mary appear to have had another dau to whom they gave the name Mary Ann in 1824 (would be strong - rare for parents to give a 2nd child the same name as a living child - except I have not found burial of the 1st Mary Ann; looked at Marys as well as Mary Anns; only one who could be her in transcripts of parishes covered by FMP as at 13 Apr 2013 is in S Nicholas at Wade, 1803, an infant BUT a Mary Griggs was bapt at St Nicholas in 1803 so the burial was almost certainly that Mary). Did they have such a daughter? - she was baptised only about 3 months after a Sarah Ann Hyde.

      RESEARCH TO DO:

      What happened to Mary Ann Griggs born 1804 if she didn't marry Robert i.e. is there any other marriage or a burial that could be her?

      If it wasn't Mary Ann, dau of Charles and Mary, who marr Robert then where was her baptism? - check free church baptisms.
      Other alternatives:
      Mary - bapt St John the Baptist - 1798 dau of Stephen and Elizabeth - maybe she adjusted her age to be younger than her husband?
      Mary - bapt Birchington - 1800 dau of John and Mary
    Person ID I411  All | Teresa's direct ancestors
    Last Modified 9 Apr 2020 

    Father Charles Sladden GRIGGS,   b. 21 Jul 1775, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 2 Apr 1858, The Union Workhouse, Minster in Thanet, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 82 years) 
    Mother Mary CLARK,   b. Abt 1781, St. Peters, Broadstairs, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Mar 1852, The Union Workhouse, Minster in Thanet, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 71 years) 
    Married 13 Sep 1803  St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 7 Feb 2019)

      By banns, both otp, both made their mark; witnesses were Richard Mummery and James Dixon (both witnesses to many weddings around this time)
    Children 9 children 
    Family ID F4438    |  Family Chart

    Family Robert HYDE,   b. 11 Jul 1802, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Jun 1877, The Union Workhouse, Minster in Thanet, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years) 
    Married 5 Jul 1823  St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • By banns, ba and sp, both otp, both signed; witnesses were Wm Bayley and James Dixon
      (transcript on KFHS CD 28)
    Children 11 children 
    Last Modified 15 Nov 2011 
    Family ID F298    |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - 2 Sep 1804 - Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsBaptised - 29 Oct 1804 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 5 Jul 1823 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Maria HYDE - 1826 - Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Robert HYDE - 20 May 1832 - Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Maria HYDE - 1834 - Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild bapt - Emily HYDE - 25 Nov 1836 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - John HYDE - Dec Q 1838 - Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - William HYDE - Dec Q 1840 - Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Mary Ann HYDE - Sep Q 1843 - Thanet Reg Dist, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 29 Dec 1870 - St. John the Baptist Church, Margate, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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