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John BAILEY

John BAILEY

Male 1903 - 1980  (77 years)    Has 185 ancestors and 5 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name John BAILEY 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born 24 May 1903  Marsden, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: Bailey, John q3 1903 S Shields RD 10a 818; GRO online index shows mother's maiden name as Robinson
      Actual date from 1939 register
    Birth certificate for John Bailey (b 1903)
    Birth certificate for John Bailey (b 1903)
    Gender Male 
    Education School 
    1911  Seaham, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • At the time of the 1911 census
    Occupation Gardener 
    From 1917 to 1968  Seaham, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Gardener for the council, head gardener by 1960. Worked in public parks, on roundabout floral bedding etc.
      (Approximate date range)
    War Service Rescue and Demolition A. R. P. Warden 
    1939  Seaham, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • An initial (or 2) after Seaham that I can't quite read, may indicate a part of Seaham or Seaham Harbour.
      (from 1939 register, Ref: RG101/2798C/010/37 Letter Code: FFYM)
    Residence 1939  19, Grants Crescent, Seaham Harbour, Seaham, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • I knew that he had lived at 19 Grants Crescent at some time prior to 1960 and the 1939 register shows it was his address then.
      At that time he was with his wife and daughter; one other entry closed as at 21 Dec 2016, probably his son, but entry not been opened because (I think) he died abroad.
    Residence From 1960 to 1980  Fairlawns, Dene Road, Dalton-le-Dale, Seaham, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Lived at Fairlawns, Dene Rd, Dalton-le-Dale, Seaham by 1960 when he married Marjorie and lived there with her.
    Died 26 May 1980  Sunderland Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: q2 1980 Sunderland RD 2 1828; dth index shows dob as 24 My 1903
      Actual date from gravestone in Seaham
    Person ID I304  All | henryAdorbailey
    Last Modified 10 Mar 2018 

    Father Henry BAILEY,   b. 16 Apr 1866, Zoar, St. Budeaux, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Sep 1946, The Royal Infirmary, Sunderland, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years) 
    Mother Dorothy ROBINSON,   b. 14 Mar 1870, 68, Washington New Row, Usworth, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Jan 1963, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 92 years) 
    Married 5 May 1888  Whitburn Parish Church, Whitburn, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Certificate for the marriage of Henry Bailey to Dorothy Robinson
    Certificate for the marriage of Henry Bailey to Dorothy Robinson
    Children How many did Henry and Dorothy have? 
    • According to a newspaper cutting for Henry and Dorothy's Golden Wedding, they had had 7 sons and 6 daughters (4 and 3 then living) - the figures for those still living is right, but I only know of 6 sons.
      Another newspaper cutting says they had 14 children, another only 12!
      By the time of the 1911 census they had had 12 children born alive, of whom 3 had died. Edith was still living then, who would subsequently die in infancy, and William had not been born. I think this is more likely to be accurate than the much later newspaper reports, which would suggest they did have at least 13 children, and if there was a 14th he or she was born after 1911.

      So who was the 13th? Granddad thought that a child named after each of them had died; whilst I can find the earlier Henry I have not found any evidence of a Dorothy. Possibly a child was born before they married and their birth registered as a Robinson. No likely Dorothy found - if there was a daughter Dorothy she would have made the total sons / daughters in the Golden Wedding report the wrong way around - far from impossible, in a local newspaper!

      It seems strange to me that the number of children should be quoted variably. Two possible explanations, apart from errors by newspaper jounalists or typos, could be:
      1. that they had had children still born or had miscarriages  OR
      2. that Dorothy had had one or 2 children before she married Henry. Especially given the good age she lived to, I find it hard to imagine she could have kept this a secret - especially when then counting them at times.

      But a late miscarriage or especially a still-birth I think could quite likely be counted as having a child at times, and yet not at others. (The 1911 census, though, did clearly say they had had 12 children born alive, which suggests I may be missing one who was not a still-birth / late miscarriage).

      With names as common as Bailey and Robinson it is not easy to be certain, without the expense of purchasing a lot of certificates.
    Wedding Anniversary Golden 
    5 May 1938  Garden Street, Houghall, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Henry and Dorothy Bailey Golden Wedding - 1938
    Henry and Dorothy Bailey Golden Wedding - 1938
    Children 12 children 
    Photos
    Bailey brothers and sisters
    Bailey brothers and sisters
    Taken at the wedding of Dorothy Simpson.
    Six of the seven children of Henry Bailey (b 1866) and Dorothy nee Robinson (b 1870) still living in 1966, viz.
    (back row) Will, Henry, John
    (front row) Emily, Doris, Rob
    (Flo is the one still living but not present)
    Documents
    Newspaper notice of the death of Samuel Bailey
    Newspaper notice of the death of Samuel Bailey
    Family ID F98    |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Mary Ellen EILBECK,   b. 12 Apr 1903, Easington Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Feb 1945, Seaham Harbour, Seaham, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 41 years) 
    Married 25 Dec 1924  Primitive Methodist Chapel, Tempest Road, Seaham Harbour, Seaham, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: Bailey, John to Eilbeck, Mary E q4 1924 Easington RD 10a 923
      Details from transcribed data on Durham Records Online, viewed 8 Apr 2011
    Children 2 children 
    Last Modified 5 Oct 2017 
    Family ID F216    |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Marjorie ("Madge") BARNARD,   b. 20 Nov 1919, Ecclesall, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 20 Aug 1960  Wesley Chapel, Fulwood Road, Ecclesall, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Met Marjorie through Rechabites
    BMD certificates
    Certificate for the marriage of John Bailey to Marjorie Barnard
    Certificate for the marriage of John Bailey to Marjorie Barnard
    Last Modified 10 Mar 2014 
    Family ID F222    |  Family Chart

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    A present to granddad from his brother John
    A present to granddad from his brother John
    Uncle John gave granddad a Bible - presumably to take to sea with him.
    John Bailey's death notice in the paper
    John Bailey's death notice in the paper