Joan HALKE

Female Est 1520 - Yes, date unknown    Has 8 ancestors and 9 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Joan HALKE 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born Est 1520 
    Gender Female 
    Died Yes, date unknown 
    Buried
    • Could be the Jone buried in Elham on 4 Dec 1594, but with Joan such a common Christian name can't be certain.
    Notes 
    • From 'The Visitation of Kent, 1619' where shown as the daughter of William Hawke of Bircholt
    Person ID I17415  Teresa's tree
    Last Modified 15 Oct 2015 

    Father William HALKE,   b. Est 1493,   bur. 7 Nov 1558, Ss. Gregory and Martin’s Church, Wye, Kent, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 65 years) 
    Mother Agnes ROSE,   b. Est 1495,   d. Bef 1558  (Age ~ 62 years) 
    Married Between 1505 and 1511 
    • I did estimate 1517 from approximate dob of first known son - though there could be daughters or chidlren who didn't survive born earlier. Agnes was not married when her grandfather Thomas Rose wrote his will in 1505, but I suspect she was the 'Agnes Halke' named in the will of this Agnes's grandfather's wife, Agnes Rose (formerly Andrew). That will refers to 'Agnes Halke suentyme my s[er]vant' but I don't think being servant to Agnes wife of John Rose means she couldn't also have been her step-granddaughter.

      Was it this William, i.e. the father of Sampson and his siblings, who died in 1558, who had been married to Agnes Rose?


      Both Thomas Rose, father of Agnes, and the Richard Halke who died in 1546 left bequests to the children of William, namely Richard and Thomas. That points very strongly it being the William son of Richard who died in 1546 who married Agnes. 

      Clearly this William was the son of a Richard, but was he the son of the Richard who died in 1546? Sampson who died in 1488 also left a son Richard, could he too have had a son William?
      Having examined the wills there is nothing in that of Sampson (d. 1488) to suggest he owned anything outside of Wye. By contrast, the John who died in 1492 left property in Hastingleigh, Elmstead and Brabourne to his son Richard. And the Richard who died in 1546 left property in Hastingleigh and Elmstead to a godson (who I suspect was also a grandson). There is no mention of Brabourne - perhaps that land had already passed to his son William in his lifetime.

      When Agnes's grandfather John ROSE wrote his will in 1505 he referred to 4 daughters of his son Thomas, all of whom were unmarried.
      By the time Thomas wrote his will in 1526 she was married.
      This points to William and Agnes marrying between 1505 and 1526, and to them having had 2 sons by the time Thomas wrote his will, so the marriage must have been at least a little before 1526.
      This ties in with William whose IPM shows he had a son Richard, the oldest named in the document, born about 1518.

      The more I look at the wills and other documents the more I think that it was my ancestor William who was married to Agnes Rose and that his father was the Richard who died in 1546.

      For example, William's son Richard, clearly the son of this William since he mentions brothers John, Sampson and Christopher in his will, and sister Joan, etc., appears to have had the same servant as his probable grandfather Thomas Rose. He left bequests to Prowdes, relations of Agnes Rose's (though this alone would not be good evidence, since the way a certain social class intermarried it is quite possible they were also relations on his father's side).  

      The large gaps in ages between the children named in William's inquisition post mortem could be due to them being from different marriages. The span, though, is not too great for one mother and it could simply be that there were children in the middle who pre-deceased their father or were female (and so not mentioned in in inquisition post mortem). Looking at William's will and other documents not only shows evidence of one or more daughters, but also of 2 sons living when he died but not named in the IPM.

      The 's' at the end of a word can be hard to distinguish from a flourish in old hand-writing, but there is nothing after 'wiff' in the request in William's will (register copy) for him to be buried in Wye Church 'besides my wiff'. Since there was no bequest to a living wife, this does suggest William was only married once and Agnes was the mother of all of his children.
      (Unless an 's' in the original will was mis-read as a flourish when the register copy was made; unfortunately the original will appears not to have survived).
    Children 7 children 
    Family ID F6989    |  Family Chart

    Family Hamond HANDVILE,   d. Between 1543 and 1544 
    Married Est 1540 
    Children 2 children 
    Last Modified 27 Oct 2014 
    Family ID F6990    |  Family Chart