Richard Perring GOTHAM

Male 1812 - 1847  (~ 34 years)    Has 19 ancestors but no descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Richard Perring GOTHAM 
    Relationshipwith Andrew GOTHAM
    Baptised 8 Nov 1812  St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From img on FMP
      Mother shown as Frances
    Gender Male 
    Occupation From 1837 to 1839 
    Mariner 
    • Voyages know of between the dates shown, Richard was probably a mariner for much longer than this
    Occupation 1847  76, Blundell Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Publican at ‘The Grapes’ 
    • At the time of his death (recorded in burial register)
    Died 8 Jun 1847  Tyn-y-Coed, Northop, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Cause: Consumption 
    • GRO ref: Getham [sic], Richard q2 1847 Holywell RD 27 212; GRO online shows surname as Gotham and age as 33
      Although the original index shows surname as Getham, the entry is positioned between Gotch and Gothard! (FreeBMD has indexed as both Gotham and Getham)
      (from baptism, age at death was at least and probably 34, but this is close enough)
    Buried 12 Jun 1847  St. Eurgain and St Peter's Church, Northop, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 19 Dec 2014)
      "Name: Richard Gotham, Publican The Grapes - 76 Blundell St. Liverpool. No. 372; Abode.: Ty'n y erid(?); When buried.: June 12th.; Age: 34; By whom the Ceremony was performed: Thomas Williams Curate" - under heading 'Burials in the Parish of Northop in the County of Flint in the Year 1847'
      ('Ty'n y' appears to be Welsh for 'the house'; unfortunately that means the significant part is what forllows, the part I have transcribed as 'erid' and that is particularly unclear)
       
    Notes 
    • (Research):Richard is quite an unusual name amongst Gothams so it is safer to think that the burial and marriage shown refer to this Richard than it would be if records with limited info referred to a Thomas.

      No records found for Richard in Devon, after his baptism (i.e. no marriage or death showing up in indexes to PRs, no entry in census indexes). It appears his brother may well have moved to Liverpool so seems quite likely Richard would too.
      I can't find him in the the 1841 census, so it seems quite likely he was at sea, a mariner like so many Gothams.
      This is bourne out by a mariner's record for a 24 year old Richard Gotham born Teignmouth with voyages 1837 - 1839 noted.
      It should be possible to find out more about these and whether they were from Liverpool.
      It therefore seems reasonable to suppose that by 1847 he could have been a publican in Liverpool, as the burial record suggests.
      The link with Flintshire might have been through his wife; the reg district in which this took place (Great Boughton) spans Cheshire and Flintshire.
    Person ID I126  Gothams
    Last Modified 24 Mar 2019 

    Father William GOTHAM,   c. 9 Jun 1776, All Saints’ Church, Combeinteignhead, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Between 1821 and 1827  (Age ~ 44 years) 
    Mother Fanny PERRING,   b. Abt 1771,   d. Jun Q 1855, Newton Abbot Reg Dist, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 84 years) 
    Marriage License 4 Dec 1801  Exeter, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Allegation 
    • Entry in the Devon Archive Catalogue, marriage bonds and allegations, for the marriage of William Gotham of West Teignmouth, mariner and Fanny Perring of East Teignmouth, spinster
      (ref. no. DEX/7/b/1/1801/492; cat. viewed 8 Sep 2016; bond / allegation seen 18 Oct 2017)
    Married 5 Dec 1801  St. Michael the Archangel’s Church, East Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 14 Nov 2014)
      "William Gotham of the Parish of W Teignmouth
      and Fanny Perring of this
      Parish were
      Married in this Chapel by Licence
      this fifth Day of December in the Year One Thousand eight Hundred
      and one by me W Short [Curate]
      This Marriage was         The mark V of William Gotham
      solemnized between Us The mark ++ of Fanny Perring
      In the           Mary Finch
      Presence of William Gotham Benjamin Bulley"
    Children 7 children 
    Family ID F6    |  Family Chart

    Family Margaret TEGIN,   b. Abt 1796, Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep Q 1857, Liverpool Reg Dist, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 61 years) 
    Marriage License 31 Oct 1842  Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Cheshire marr lic & allegations 
    Married 3 Nov 1842  St. John’s Church, Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: GOTHAM, Richard to Minshull, Margaret q4 1842 Gt Boughton RD 19 29
      Details from PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 18 Apr 2017)With Richard dying before 1851 we lose the possibility of working out who he married by finding him with his wife in the census of that year.
      Sometimes where this happens it is possible to exclude brides by finding other couples. However, Hurstwick doesn't really seem to exist as a surname - and I haven't worked out what it is a version of. Certainly there are no William Hurstwicks in the census. With Ellis Roberts the problem is the opposite - there are hundreds. Too many to look through, and in any case there must be Ellis Roberts who had wives with each of the Christian names above. I haven't even looked at Samuel Williams - there are bound to be loads.

      The other way of identifying Richard's wife short of seeing the PR entry or marriage certificate is to find a reference to his widow.
      I have been able to attach most Gotham BMD events in Liverpool to a tree on this website quite easily (most are descendants of the Thomas Gotham who was married to Susannah Carr or wives of descendants). One that I hadn't identified was the death of a Margaret Gotham in 1857.
      It seemed to me likely that this was Richard's widow so I looked for Margaret Minshull in the censuses.
      This is when I realised that a widower [sic] Bayant Gotham in the 1851 census was living at 76 Blundell Street - the address given for Richard at his burial. He was a publican there, but Bayant was a boarding house keeper - usually a woman's occupation. I believe Bayant was actually Margaret, a widow. I can see how Margaret could look like Bayant (images will be added to show this) and might have been mis-recorded by the enumerator. Although Bryant is a name (male) Bayant is not; although I might be mis-reading Bayart the 'Bay' part is clear.  'Bayant's' birthplace was shown as Hawarden, Flintshire. Hawarden is only about 5 miles from Northop, where Richard was buried; in fact, the closest parts of the parishes are little more than 2 miles apart. In addition, it was hard to explain the birth of a Gotham in Wales with a nephew born in Teignmouth, with no sign of that birth / the parents. I can see that a mariner from Teignmouth might have settled in the Hawarden area, and a child returned to stay with grandparents in Teignmouth and married and had children there, or even returned with a wife and had children there - but there should be PR entries for them. A widow makes more sense.     

      In 1841, before Richard's marriage, a Margart Minshull, an 'F.S.' (Female Servant) was living in Blundell Street, rounded down age shown as 30, not born in Lancashire. She was a servant in a boarding house, a good preparation for running one herself later. The slight discrepancy in her age may be due to a small mistake in 1851 or to her claiming to be a little younger than she was in 1841 - or the head of the house getting it wrong (the 1851 census suggests her age should have been recorded as 35 in 1841).
    Last Modified 18 Apr 2017 
    Family ID F6513    |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBaptised - 8 Nov 1812 - St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarriage License - Cheshire marr lic & allegations - 31 Oct 1842 - Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 3 Nov 1842 - St. John’s Church, Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Publican at ‘The Grapes’ - 1847 - 76, Blundell Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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