Margaret TEGIN

Female Abt 1796 - 1857  (~ 61 years)    Has 2 ancestors and 16 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Margaret TEGIN 
    Relationshipwith Andrew GOTHAM
    Born Abt 1796  Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Between 1791 and 1803 from the 1851 census where shown as aged 48 and age in death registration index of 66; shown as aged 37 when she married in 1842, implying born about 1805!
    Baptised 7 Oct 1796  St. Deiniol’s Church, Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (imag on FMP)
      Shows Margaret Teggin, daughter of Robert and Mary
      "7th Margaret Dr. of Robert & Mary Teggin _ Farmer [wife's maiden name] Jones, [township] Ewloe"
    Gender Female 
    Also known as Bayant MINSHULL 
    Occupation 1841  Blundell Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Female Servant in Boarding House 
    • There was only the boarding house keeper Mary Tegin and 2 other Tegins (probably her children) in the house besides Margaret at the time of the census.
    Residence 1842  Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • According to her marriage PR entry
    Occupation 1851  76, Blundell Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Boarding house keeper 
    • Margaret had a 'nephew', name given as 'James Gotham' with her at the time of the census. I think this was probably James Gotham Potter, a nephew of her late husband; the age is right and James Gotham Potter was shown as resident in Liverpool when not at sea when issued with a seaman's ticket two days before the census.
      Besides them there were 14 lodgers present, and 3 servants. Four lodgers appear to have been entered as a separate household, but may well have been provided with lodgings by Margaret as it appears there may have been a misunderstanding - 'head' seems first to have been written by one, and then crossed out and replaced by 'lodger'.
      All fourteen lodgers were mariners, one was aged 55 but all the others were in their 20s, and they came from all parts of the UK: from Devon in the South-West to Folkstone in the South-East, across to Ireland and up to Scotland and the Shetland Isles in the North. One wasn't born in the UK but in Nova Scotia. The servants were also from widely flung parts - one born Liverpool, one Ireland and one Demerara.
    Died Sep Q 1857  Liverpool Reg Dist, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: Gotham, Margaret q3 1857 Liverpool RD 8b 147; GRO online index shows died aged 66
    Notes 
    • (Research):The age discrepancy (1851 census and age at death) could indicate I am muddling two Margarets, but if so there is a strange absence of data regarding them, so I think it indicates either a deliberate mis-representation or that who ever supplied the data on one or both occasions was not well informed.
    Person ID I1253  Gothams
    Last Modified 9 Aug 2018 

    Father Robert TEGIN,   b. Abt 1746,   bur. 9 Jan 1841, St. Deiniol’s Church, Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 95 years) 
    Mother Mary JONES,   b. Abt 1760,   bur. 14 Apr 1837, St. Deiniol’s Church, Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 77 years) 
    Children 5 children 
    Family ID F7611    |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Samuel MINSHULL,   b. Abt 1803,   bur. 29 Apr 1828, Connah’s Quay, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 25 years) 
    Married 20 May 1827  Parish Church, Wrexham or Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 27 Oct 2017)

      Only the one son found, looking in Flintshire and Denbighshire baptism record sets on FMP, making it seem likely that they had not been married long when Samuel died. This marriage in 1827 of a Margaret Tegin to Samuel Minshull therefore fits well.
    Children
    +1. Samuel MINSHULL,   b. 30 Apr 1828,   d. Yes, date unknown
     
    Last Modified 30 Mar 2018 
    Family ID F6542    |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Richard Perring GOTHAM,   c. 8 Nov 1812, St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Jun 1847, Tyn-y-Coed, Northop, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 34 years) 
    Marriage License 31 Oct 1842  Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Cheshire marr lic & allegations 
    Married 3 Nov 1842  St. John’s Church, Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: GOTHAM, Richard to Minshull, Margaret q4 1842 Gt Boughton RD 19 29
      Details from PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 18 Apr 2017)With Richard dying before 1851 we lose the possibility of working out who he married by finding him with his wife in the census of that year.
      Sometimes where this happens it is possible to exclude brides by finding other couples. However, Hurstwick doesn't really seem to exist as a surname - and I haven't worked out what it is a version of. Certainly there are no William Hurstwicks in the census. With Ellis Roberts the problem is the opposite - there are hundreds. Too many to look through, and in any case there must be Ellis Roberts who had wives with each of the Christian names above. I haven't even looked at Samuel Williams - there are bound to be loads.

      The other way of identifying Richard's wife short of seeing the PR entry or marriage certificate is to find a reference to his widow.
      I have been able to attach most Gotham BMD events in Liverpool to a tree on this website quite easily (most are descendants of the Thomas Gotham who was married to Susannah Carr or wives of descendants). One that I hadn't identified was the death of a Margaret Gotham in 1857.
      It seemed to me likely that this was Richard's widow so I looked for Margaret Minshull in the censuses.
      This is when I realised that a widower [sic] Bayant Gotham in the 1851 census was living at 76 Blundell Street - the address given for Richard at his burial. He was a publican there, but Bayant was a boarding house keeper - usually a woman's occupation. I believe Bayant was actually Margaret, a widow. I can see how Margaret could look like Bayant (images will be added to show this) and might have been mis-recorded by the enumerator. Although Bryant is a name (male) Bayant is not; although I might be mis-reading Bayart the 'Bay' part is clear.  'Bayant's' birthplace was shown as Hawarden, Flintshire. Hawarden is only about 5 miles from Northop, where Richard was buried; in fact, the closest parts of the parishes are little more than 2 miles apart. In addition, it was hard to explain the birth of a Gotham in Wales with a nephew born in Teignmouth, with no sign of that birth / the parents. I can see that a mariner from Teignmouth might have settled in the Hawarden area, and a child returned to stay with grandparents in Teignmouth and married and had children there, or even returned with a wife and had children there - but there should be PR entries for them. A widow makes more sense.     

      In 1841, before Richard's marriage, a Margart Minshull, an 'F.S.' (Female Servant) was living in Blundell Street, rounded down age shown as 30, not born in Lancashire. She was a servant in a boarding house, a good preparation for running one herself later. The slight discrepancy in her age may be due to a small mistake in 1851 or to her claiming to be a little younger than she was in 1841 - or the head of the house getting it wrong (the 1851 census suggests her age should have been recorded as 35 in 1841).
    Last Modified 18 Apr 2017 
    Family ID F6513    |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1796 - Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsBaptised - 7 Oct 1796 - St. Deiniol’s Church, Hawarden, Flintshire, Wales See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Female Servant in Boarding House - 1841 - Blundell Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1842 - Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarriage License - Cheshire marr lic & allegations - 31 Oct 1842 - Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 3 Nov 1842 - St. John’s Church, Chester, Cheshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Boarding house keeper - 1851 - 76, Blundell Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsDied - Sep Q 1857 - Liverpool Reg Dist, Lancashire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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