Henry VOGWELL

Male Abt 1817 - 1890  (~ 73 years)    Has 18 ancestors and 133 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Henry VOGWELL 
    Relationshipwith Teresa Ann GOATHAM
    Born Abt 1817  Kingsteignton, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From censuses - birthplace shown as Kingsteignton (1851, 1871); Teignmouth (1881)
    Baptised 24 Aug 1817  St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    church Methodist Preacher  [1
    Northumberland, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • I suspect that the preacher might have been Henry, the son of this Henry.

      In "The Collier's Rant: Song and Culture in the Industrial Village" a Henry Vogwell from Cramlington is mentioned as a 'character' preacher: "in the pulpit he would excitedly pace backwards and forwards, speaking rapidly in a weird, wailing voice, often until he was out of breath".
    Miscellaneous Thirteen sons? 
    From 1838 to 1869 
    • The daughter, Kathryn, of one of Henry's sons, William, said her father used to say he was one of thirteen sons by two wives.

      At the time of writing I have 13 children but only 12 sons. William could have been slightly wrong, or I may be missing one son. Emily, the daughter of another son of Henry's (Emmanuel) used to point to a photo of Henry with a wife and small son and say he only had one child by that wife. Since I know of 7 by Henry's third wife and 5 by the 1st, it suggest the wife in question was the 2nd; I know of no children of hers. This would make the 13 correct but would still leave William as slightly wrong - as then of course it would be 13 sons by 3 wives.
    Occupation Labourer 
    1838 
    • Both when he married and when his son George was baptised he was shown as a labourer, as he was again in 1845 when Emanuel was baptised
    Residence 28 Jun 1838  Townlake, Sydenham Damerel, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • At the time of his marriage
    Residence 26 Aug 1838  Down Gate, Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • When his son George was baptised
    Residence 1841  Grenofen House, Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Next entry was a house with his parents and sister.
      Henry, age '20', was in a house with Henry Pellew '15' and 2 FS (female servants) -  Susannah Norb? and Fanny Brook (both age '20')
    Occupation Ag lab 
    1841  Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1845  Holme Bush, Stoke Climsland, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • When his son Emanuel was baptised
    Residence 1851  Stentaford Land, Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • With his wife and four boys recorded as his sons - Henry (aged 10), George (8), 'Manuel' (5) and another Henry (4).
      Actually it appears the first 3 were his sons, the last his nephew, son of his brother, George, by his first wife (who had died in 1848). George and his second wife were living separately, both as servants and recorded as single; I guess they couldn't afford to be together as a family at this time, and so couldn't have their son Henry with them.  

      This Henry's parents and sister were neighbours in Stentaford Land (or living as separate household in the same house - not clear from census)
    Occupation Copper miner 
    From 1851 to 1861 
    • His sons baptisms in 1861 and 1865 also show him as a miner though material not specified
    Residence 1861  Pontons Piece, Cheesewring Railway, Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Living with wife Betsy and sons Henry, George, John and William.
    Residence 1865  Cheesewring Railway, Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • When his son James Frederick was baptised
    Moved Cornwall to Yorkshire 
    Between 1867 and 1869 
    • Sometime between the baptism of his son Thomas in 1867 and the
      birth of Eleazar in 1869 Henry and his family left Cornwall and moved north to Rosedale West in Yorkshire, a centre of ironstone mining.
    Moved Yorkshire to Northumberland 
    Between 1869 and 1871 
    • Sometime between the death of his son Eleazar in 1869 and the 1871 census Henry and his family left Yorkshire and moved further north to Cramlington, a coal mining area of Northumberland.
    Occupation Ironstone miner 
    1869  Rosedale West, Yorkshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1871  Terrace, Cramlington, Northumberland, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Living in house with a Northcott family - husband from Tavistock.
      With wife and sons John, William, James and Thomas.
    Occupation Coal miner 
    From 1871 to 1881 
    • At Cramlington, Northumberland in 1871; at Hetton le Hole, Co. Durham in 1881
    Residence 1881  Barrington Terrace, Hetton-le-Hole, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    Died Sep Q 1890  Tynemouth Reg Dist, Northumberland, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • Found his widow in 1891 and 1901
      GRO ref: Vogwill, Henry, aged 74 q3 1890 Tynemouth RD 10b 174
    Notes 
    • (Research):A Henry married Jane Wedlake in 1850; if this Henry's 1st wife Jane had died and he had married another Jane that would explain the age discrepency in the age of Jane (between marr to Jane Pellew and 1851 census).
      He clearly did marry a Betsy / Elizabeth. Can't have been the 1856 marriage of a Henry Vogwill - that was his father's 2nd marriage.
    Person ID I1012  Teresa's tree
    Last Modified 6 Nov 2018 

    Father Henry VOGWELL,   b. Abt 1794, Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Nov 1871, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 77 years) 
    Mother Jane BAILEY,   b. Abt 1787, Kingsteignton, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar Q 1852, Stoke Damerel Reg Dist, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 65 years) 
    Married 27 Sep 1816  St. Mary’s Church, Bathwick, Somerset, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • I was guessing the marriage would have taken place about 1816, i.e. not too long before the first child was born (IF I know of all the children)

      And then I found this marriage - a good match on date, and given the rarity of surname Vogwill seems too much to be co-incidence. But  in Somerset -why did they marry in Bathwick? Census shows Jane to have been born Kingsteignton so I don't think it indicates the bride being a different Jane Bailey.

      Now (29 July 2017) the Somerset baptism index is on FMP, there is not a single (F/V)ogw(e/i)ll baptism in it, in any part of Somerset at any date; clearly Henry was from elsewhere.
    Children 5 children 
    Family ID F780  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Jane PELLEW,   b. Abt 1817, (possibly), Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep Q 1849, East Stonehouse Reg Dist, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 32 years) 
    Banns of marriage 20 May 1838 to 3 Jun 1838  St. Mary’s Church, Sydenham Damerel, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • In Banns register (image on FMP, viewed 26 Feb 2013):

      (Page 18) The Year 1838

      [No. 34] Banns of Marriage between
      Henry Vogwill, sojourner of this
      Parish.
      and Jane Pellew, sojourner of this
      Parish
      1st Time, Sunday, May 20 by me, Chas. Edwd. Radcliffe
      2nd Time, Sunday, May 27 by me, Chas. Edwd. Radcliffe
      3rd Time, Sunday, June 3 by me, Chas. Edwd. Radcliffe
    Married 28 Jun 1838  St. Mary’s Church, Sydenham Damerel, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • From PR entry (image on FMP, viewed 26 Feb 2013)
      GRO ref: q2 183 Tavistock RD 9 573
    Children 
     1. George VOGWELL,   b. Sep Q 1838, Launceston Reg Dist, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    +2. Henry VOGWELL,   b. Dec Q 1840, Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 2 Dec 1905, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 65 years)
    +3. George VOGWILL,   b. Mar Q 1843, Sydenham Damerel, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar Q 1894, Tavistock Reg Dist, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 51 years)
    +4. Emmanuel VOGWELL,   b. 1845, Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun Q 1877, Houghton Le Spring Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 32 years)
     5. Josiah VOGWELL,   b. Jun Q 1847, Launceston Reg Dist, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun Q 1850, East Stonehouse Reg Dist, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 3 years)
    Last Modified 6 Nov 2018 
    Family ID F782  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Jane WEDLAKE,   b. Abt 1823, Redruth, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married Jun Q 1850  Stoke Damerel Reg Dist, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location 
    • GRO ref: Vogwell, Henry; WEDLAKE, Jane q2 1850 Stoke Daml. RD 9 523
    Last Modified 13 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F832  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

    Family 3 Betsey BAILEY,   b. Abt 1826, Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep Q 1908, Easington Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 82 years) 
    Married
    • Assuming Henry became a widower for a second time before marrying Betsey, then they must have married between the 1851 and the 1861 censuses.
      Not only can no such marriage be found but Marian Warriner's notes record that Bessie had 4 children who were adopted by Henry: Thomas, James, John and William. However, the sons of these names appearing in the census returns were clearly registered as Vogwills when born, not as Baileys, and for the last 2 at least the births were after the censuses show that Henry and Betsey were living together as a married couple.
      But maybe Henry and Betsey had not married and so legally the sons were not his?
      Formal adoption did not exist at this time but Henry may have informally have adopted his own sons by registering them with himself shown as father.
      (The four named as being adopted were children 1,2,6 and 7 of the 8 Henry and Betsey appear to have had together; the other 4 all died in infancy)

      The daughter, Kathryn, of one of those said to be adopted, William, said  her father used to say he was one of thirteen sons by two wives - it is hard to imagine he would have said this is he was adopted and not a biological son of Henry.

      Since no death has been found for Henry's 2nd wife, Jane nee Wedlake, perhaps he did not marry Betsey because he was already married? [2]
    Children 
     1. John Henry VOGWELL,   b. Jun Q 1857, Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Apr 1902, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 45 years)
    +2. William VOGWELL,   b. 11 Feb 1859, Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Jan 1933, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 73 years)
     3. Alfred James VOGWELL,   b. Abt Jan 1861, Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec Q 1864, Liskeard Reg Dist, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 2 years)
     4. Eleazar VOGWELL,   b. Mar Q 1863, Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun Q 1864, Liskeard Reg Dist, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 1 years)
     5. Elizabeth Jane VOGWELL,   b. Mar Q 1864, Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    +6. James Frederick VOGWELL,   b. 18 Jan 1865, Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Sep 1941, South Hetton, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
     7. Thomas VOGWELL,   b. Mar Q 1867, Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep Q 1905, Easington Reg Dist, Co. Durham, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 38 years)
     8. Eleazar VOGWELL,   b. Jun Q 1869, Pickering Reg Dist, Yorkshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun Q 1869, Pickering Reg Dist, Yorkshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 0 years)
    Last Modified 27 Apr 2018 
    Family ID F787  Family Group Page  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1817 - Kingsteignton, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsBaptised - 24 Aug 1817 - St. James’ Church, West Teignmouth, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google Mapschurch - Methodist Preacher - - Northumberland, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsBanns of marriage - 20 May 1838 to 3 Jun 1838 - St. Mary’s Church, Sydenham Damerel, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 28 Jun 1838 - St. Mary’s Church, Sydenham Damerel, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 26 Aug 1838 - Down Gate, Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Henry VOGWELL - Dec Q 1840 - Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1841 - Grenofen House, Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Ag lab - 1841 - Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - George VOGWILL - Mar Q 1843 - Sydenham Damerel, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1845 - Holme Bush, Stoke Climsland, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Emmanuel VOGWELL - 1845 - Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1851 - Stentaford Land, Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - John Henry VOGWELL - Jun Q 1857 - Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - William VOGWELL - 11 Feb 1859 - Whitchurch, Devon, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1861 - Pontons Piece, Cheesewring Railway, Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Alfred James VOGWELL - Abt Jan 1861 - Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Eleazar VOGWELL - Mar Q 1863 - Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Elizabeth Jane VOGWELL - Mar Q 1864 - Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - James Frederick VOGWELL - 18 Jan 1865 - Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsChild born - Thomas VOGWELL - Mar Q 1867 - Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Ironstone miner - 1869 - Rosedale West, Yorkshire, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
    Link to Google MapsDied - Sep Q 1890 - Tynemouth Reg Dist, Northumberland, England See the place on a map and other information about it - if available (many more will be in time); also all individuals with events at this location Link to Google Earth (if installed; see link below to install)
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    1. [S79] The Collier's Rant: Song and Culture in the Industrial Village. Google Books (preview). online book preview. (Croon Helm, London. 1977), Robert Colls, (entry on Google Books: n.d.), 173. accessed 16 May 2012. (Reliability: 3), 16 May 2012.

      Colls is referring to Bastow Wilson's "A Primitive Methodist Diamond Field. The story of a Nortumbrian Mining Circuit" (1909) and I think the quote describing Vogwell comes from this earlier book.
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    2. [S165] "The Vogwill Family," Loose sheets in Vogwell envelope (ref. DC22), undated, Document collection: surnames, Marian Ray, p. 3, 4 (Reliability: 3).
      Mentions 4 sons of Bessie being adopted by Henry and William's claim to be one of 13 sons.
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